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RE: If they found Jesus' turd what would they do with it?
August 20, 2016 at 4:59 am
(August 18, 2016 at 11:13 pm)chimp3 Wrote: Telastic ? Does that mean you like Greek food or is that an anagram of testicle?
No, just an idiot who thinks physical phenomena worked on different principles before the scientific theories explaining them were discovered.
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August 20, 2016 at 3:05 pm
I guess I would donate it to science so they could examine it then pass it on to the scientific community to demonstrate that Jesus actually did exist. Otherwise, I see no value in relics since they don't bring us any closer to Jesus.
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August 21, 2016 at 7:45 am
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RE: If they found Jesus' turd what would they do with it?
August 21, 2016 at 10:32 am
(August 20, 2016 at 3:05 pm)Lek Wrote: I guess I would donate it to science so they could examine it then pass it on to the scientific community to demonstrate that Jesus actually did exist. Otherwise, I see no value in relics since they don't bring us any closer to Jesus.
Then you see no values in Christian cathedrals that were all built around relics of saints and Jesus. Like Notre-Dame de Paris which has piece of the Cross, a nail of the Passion and the Holy Crown of Thorns. I guess you think of all those Catholics worshiping those obviously faked relics as real pretty stupid.
So you see them as fakes not worth giving to historians? But I get your despair to prove Jesus really existed since there are no pieces of archaeological evidence for the existence of Jesus, and the earliest writings known to have taken place regarding Jesus still occurred some decades after his supposed death around the time of Paul of Tarsus. Or frequently mentioned philosopher Philo of Alexandria who was born before the beginning of the Christian era, and lived until long after the reputed death of Christ. He wrote an account of the Jews covering the entire time that Christ is said to have existed on earth. He was living in or near Jerusalem when Christ’s miraculous birth and the Herodian massacre occurred. He was there when Christ myth made his triumphal entry into Jerusalem. He was there when the crucifixion with its attendant earthquake, supernatural darkness and resurrection of the dead took place when Christ himself supposedly rose from the dead and in the presence of some witnesses ascended into heaven. These marvelous events which must have filled the world with amazement, had they really occurred, were unknown to him.
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RE: If they found Jesus' turd what would they do with it?
August 21, 2016 at 12:01 pm
(August 20, 2016 at 3:05 pm)Lek Wrote: I guess I would donate it to science so they could examine it then pass it on to the scientific community to demonstrate that Jesus actually did exist. Otherwise, I see no value in relics since they don't bring us any closer to Jesus.
How would you show that it were Jesus' turd? You've nothing to compare it against.
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August 21, 2016 at 12:04 pm
if any cells were identified in it that were haploid I'd have to say it was a bonifide jesus turd.
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RE: If they found Jesus' turd what would they do with it?
August 21, 2016 at 12:16 pm
(August 21, 2016 at 10:32 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (August 20, 2016 at 3:05 pm)Lek Wrote: I guess I would donate it to science so they could examine it then pass it on to the scientific community to demonstrate that Jesus actually did exist. Otherwise, I see no value in relics since they don't bring us any closer to Jesus.
Then you see no values in Christian cathedrals that were all built around relics of saints and Jesus. Like Notre-Dame de Paris which has piece of the Cross, a nail of the Passion and the Holy Crown of Thorns. I guess you think of all those Catholics worshiping those obviously faked relics as real pretty stupid.
So you see them as fakes not worth giving to historians? But I get your despair to prove Jesus really existed since there are no pieces of archaeological evidence for the existence of Jesus, and the earliest writings known to have taken place regarding Jesus still occurred some decades after his supposed death around the time of Paul of Tarsus. Or frequently mentioned philosopher Philo of Alexandria who was born before the beginning of the Christian era, and lived until long after the reputed death of Christ. He wrote an account of the Jews covering the entire time that Christ is said to have existed on earth. He was living in or near Jerusalem when Christ’s miraculous birth and the Herodian massacre occurred. He was there when Christ myth made his triumphal entry into Jerusalem. He was there when the crucifixion with its attendant earthquake, supernatural darkness and resurrection of the dead took place when Christ himself supposedly rose from the dead and in the presence of some witnesses ascended into heaven. These marvelous events which must have filled the world with amazement, had they really occurred, were unknown to him.
I didn't say that relics are fake; I said that I see no value in them. Holding a piece of the cross doesn't bring me any closer to Jesus. Some people end up worshiping the relic as if it were an idol. Paul of Tarsus was an associate of the apostle Peter, who walked with Jesus, and also of James, the brother of Jesus.
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August 21, 2016 at 12:20 pm
(August 21, 2016 at 12:01 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote: (August 20, 2016 at 3:05 pm)Lek Wrote: I guess I would donate it to science so they could examine it then pass it on to the scientific community to demonstrate that Jesus actually did exist. Otherwise, I see no value in relics since they don't bring us any closer to Jesus.
How would you show that it were Jesus' turd? You've nothing to compare it against.
The question was If I knew it was the real thing, what would I do. I guess if I knew it couldn't be scientifically proven, I'd keep on walking and be amazed that I actually came across a turd that belonged to Jesus. Maybe someone else will have the same experience.
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RE: If they found Jesus' turd what would they do with it?
August 21, 2016 at 12:34 pm
(August 17, 2016 at 6:37 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: So is any Christian still answering questions? I know that some Christian denominations are bent on keeping relics, no matter what it's validity is, so I was seriously wondering if you (Christian) went to, let's say Holy Land, and found Jesus' turd preserved to this day, belonging to nobody, and you knew with 100% certainty that it was indeed his would you:
a) take it and admire it in private
b) take it and tell everybody at your church and made sure all world knows about it
c) keep walking
d) smash it
I'm also making poll for atheists of what they think a regular Christian would do, since it seems there aren't enough Christians here to make poll just for them and there seems to be option for making only one poll.
You left out option #5: All polls are bullshit.
I'll go with that one.
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RE: If they found Jesus' turd what would they do with it?
August 21, 2016 at 12:39 pm
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