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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
December 2, 2016 at 7:54 pm
It's like watching a puppy trying to use the litter tray for the first time by itself, isn't it? Only with more shit.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
December 2, 2016 at 8:03 pm
(December 2, 2016 at 7:47 pm)Jesster Wrote: It's funny how he thinks he's actually accomplishing something.
Or even making any kind of sense.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
December 2, 2016 at 8:19 pm
(December 2, 2016 at 7:44 pm)Mariosep Wrote: Thanks, readers, you have just added some 50 readers to my previous count earlier this morning; so, there are readers coming on and on to read my thread - thanks!
I think a more accurate description is that there are readers coming on your thread.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
December 3, 2016 at 1:00 am
(December 2, 2016 at 7:47 pm)Jesster Wrote: It's funny how he thinks he's actually accomplishing something.
The alternative is recognition of abject failure, and how could that -possibly- happen with the big guy on your side? These are the questions.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
December 3, 2016 at 4:39 am
I always think it's weird something as amazing and powerful as God needs help just to get us to notice it. And it still doesn't work.
I guess he must have fitted me with a bullshit filter, stopping me sensing all these magical things that are supposedly going on all the time.
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
December 3, 2016 at 5:06 am
Dear pretend coffee shop owner,
How did you get to an intelligent creator from a first cause? And if there can be an uncaused first cause, why can't there be multiple uncaused first causes?
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
December 3, 2016 at 5:41 pm
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
December 3, 2016 at 6:39 pm
(December 3, 2016 at 5:41 pm)Mariosep Wrote: Dear readers here, thanks for your presence, we have a new poster here, one Aoi Magi in post #1036; I will attend to him as soon as I finish with my promise to you about this morning I will tell you how we prove experience to exist, when we have proven existence to be in the totality of reality by way of evidence from experience of the nose in our face.
How do we prove the existence of experience, by resorting to our having proven existence which existence we have proven by way of evidence from experience - all which appears to be a case of circular reasoning?
Namely: proving existence from experience, and then proving experience from existence?
First, that would be a case of circular reasoning if we do nothing but work on words and concepts all in our mind only, but not when we go into the objective reality of things in the default status of the totality of reality which is existence... ![[Image: word-salad-by-hip-is-everything_thumb1.jpg?w=610&h=610]](https://hipiseverything.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/word-salad-by-hip-is-everything_thumb1.jpg?w=610&h=610)
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
December 4, 2016 at 9:11 am
Mario I understood all of the words you wrote individually, but the order in which you put them made no sense at all. If you can sum up what you are saying in a pithy sentence or two that would be easier to understand than the complete drivel you present.
To be clear I cant refute what you wrote because there seems to be nothing of substance to refute, just a random collection of words
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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
December 4, 2016 at 9:17 am
You can get it from his OP, which amounts to "I presume that god exists and has certain qualities, and then I work backward towards that conclusion." Shockingly, this leads him to ignore contrary evidence and arguments and depend on weird and nonsensical "proofs" that he can't even clearly express.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
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