RE: Do people hate the actual belief in God, or just the religious organizations?
October 28, 2016 at 9:36 pm
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Do people hate the actual belief in God, or just the religious organizations?
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RE: Do people hate the actual belief in God, or just the religious organizations?
October 28, 2016 at 9:37 pm
(October 28, 2016 at 8:09 pm)goombah111 Wrote: [...]so, what do people hate? or at least, what do people have the most issue with? Stupidity. It always comes with any religious territory. Religion needs stupid people in order to survive, which is why it actively promotes ignorance and false models of reality. Maybe if religions and/or gods stopped choosing the most demented of morons as their spokesmen - people would have fewer problems with the whole thing. Of course - that's not going to happen, because smart people know, that religions are bullsh*t and that there is no reason to believe in any gods.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
RE: Do people hate the actual belief in God, or just the religious organizations?
October 28, 2016 at 9:48 pm
"Satan, who is the god of this world" 2 Corinthians 4:4 hath blinded the minds of them which believe not
RE: Do people hate the actual belief in God, or just the religious organizations?
October 28, 2016 at 9:58 pm
(This post was last modified: October 28, 2016 at 9:59 pm by Chad32.)
(October 28, 2016 at 8:34 pm)goombah111 Wrote:(October 28, 2016 at 8:28 pm)Minimalist Wrote: God is a figment of someone's imagination but his supposed followers have done a shitload of damage. I don't think people are inherently bad, but we are easily corrupted. There are few people who, given too much power without enough checks and balances, won't become corrupt. Yet somehow we expect an omnipotent god to be incorruptible, somehow. One way of keeping power is claiming that you speak for a being that isn't as easy to get rid of as you are. If your average guy rapes a child, they're up the creek without a paddle. When a "holy" man does it, he's shuttled off to a different location at best. At worst the child gets blamed for it. RE: Do people hate the actual belief in God, or just the religious organizations?
October 28, 2016 at 10:01 pm
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2016 at 1:25 am by Losty.)
Umm...I don't hate either. I think the belief in God can be damaging especially if indoctrinated in a particularly negative way. But I also think it can be healthy if done in a positive way. Believing in a higher power makes some people happier healthier people. Same with religion, some aspects of organized religion are really great and some are really terrible. Some organizations are overall really good and some are overall really harmful.
I don't believe in god. I don't know of any religious organization I'd be willing to be a member of. But I don't care what other people believe or join. RE: Do people hate the actual belief in God, or just the religious organizations?
October 28, 2016 at 10:11 pm
(This post was last modified: October 28, 2016 at 10:12 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
I've got no problem with the faith in and of itself. It's those believers who insist everyone needs to hear their views that bother me, and it's the one who spread them by legislation or violence who arouse my enmity.
RE: Do people hate the actual belief in God, or just the religious organizations?
October 28, 2016 at 10:14 pm
(October 28, 2016 at 10:01 pm)Losty Wrote: Umm...I don't hate either. I think the believe in God can be damaging especially if indoctrinated in a particularly negative way. But I also think it can be healthy if done in a positive way. Believing in a higher power makes some people happier healthier people. Same with religion, some aspects of organized religion are really great and some are really terrible. Some organizations are overall really good and some are overall really harmful. My belief is that irrelevant of happiness or detriment, we ought to strive to find the truth and follow it. That said, if someone doesn't do a test and get's a zero for no answers, that is worse then a person who does the test and get's a lot of answers right but some answers wrong. I see religions as attempts to answer questions to who we are as humans. I feel people with no religion have settled for no enlightened answer out there. I respect the idea that people with answer wrong answers mixed with right answers in a form of false religions more then people saying there are no answers out there. That said, I think we humans are at loss over time, if we don't find out inner truth and purpose, and believe in it, and act according to it. I was happier without religion, but there is no escaping the reasoning that has lead me back to it, and I am however more fulfilled and feel I have greater purpose and stronger foundation with religion. RE: Do people hate the actual belief in God, or just the religious organizations?
October 28, 2016 at 10:15 pm
(October 28, 2016 at 8:09 pm)goombah111 Wrote: or both? Different strokes for different folks. I don't hate religion per se, only fundamentalism and other forms of willful ignorance. RE: Do people hate the actual belief in God, or just the religious organizations?
October 28, 2016 at 11:06 pm
(This post was last modified: October 28, 2016 at 11:08 pm by robvalue.)
Mostly religion. It's not the belief in god that causes problems, it's the idea that we know something about it. And weirdly, the idea that it needs our help in order to propagate its strange ideas.
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October 28, 2016 at 11:53 pm
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