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Anti LGBT dick Pence confronted at Hamilton
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RE: Anti LGBT dick Pence confronted at Hamilton
(November 21, 2016 at 12:39 pm)Drich Wrote:
(November 19, 2016 at 12:23 pm)Divinity Wrote: It's fucking hilarious how upset by this conservatives are.  They're such whiny children when people say things they don't like.  But DARE to call out them saying something, and they go apeshit.

Yeah we are so upset we are protesting and hold up traffic and rioting in the streets because we are a bunch a little whinny crybabies because we did not get what we want... Oh wait.. that's not us, never mind.

Ahem . . .

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/11/24/us/cou...-stop.html

A couple of choice nuggets from this trip down memory lane:

The subsequent demonstrations turned violent on Wednesday after the canvassers had decided to close the recount to the public. Joe Geller, chairman of the Miami-Dade Democratic Party, was escorted to safety by the police after a crowd chased him down and accused him of stealing a ballot. Upstairs in the Clark center, several people were trampled, punched or kicked when protesters tried to rush the doors outside the office of the Miami-Dade supervisor of elections. Sheriff's deputies restored order.

When the ruckus was over, the protesters had what they had wanted: a unanimous vote by the board to call off the hand counting.


Followed by:

Whatever the case, Democrats accused Bush supporters of gathering a crowd and riling it up in hopes of forcing the board to back down.

''One hour they're telling us they're going to get it done,'' Luis Rosero, a Democratic aide, said of the canvassers, and ''the next minute there were two riot situations and a crowd massing out in front. This was deliberate.''

Mr. Rosero said he had been punched and kicked by Republican supporters outside Mr. Leahy's office.

Republican supporters scoffed at the accusation that they had engaged in a scheme of intimidation, saying the protest had been nothing more than a spontaneous manifestation of people's anger.

''It's the same type of democracy in action when Jesse Jackson parachutes in and starts a protest in the black community,'' said Miguel De Grandy, a lawyer for the Republican Party. ''People have a right to express their opinions.''


And let's not forget the calls to 'lock her up' and much, much worse emanating from your camp in the event of a Clinton win.
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#32
RE: Anti LGBT dick Pence confronted at Hamilton
(November 20, 2016 at 1:19 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Trump really does NOT understand the difference between private free speech and the role of a public official. He literally has turned politics into pro wrestling but on bath salts. 

I can cuss him out because I am not running for public office. WE are the watchdogs, but when you are in office your role is to be a diplomat, not a fucking pineapple grenade.

"Rude" is civil. Passing laws that discriminate is beyond rude it is harmful and hateful and does NOT reflect progress one bit.

Trump and Pence think that is even close to being the same as what they have done are even equal. BULL FUCKING SHIT.

Just wait until he takes office and starts pissing people off.  The job of POTUS has to go to the most thick-skinned among us, because with any president you can be assured that roughly half the country hates you at any given time.  And they will voice that hatred in many different ways, especially online.

Do you think Trump, who blows up at any perceived slight and carries on personal wars over those he perceives to be his enemies could put up with a tenth of all the vitriol spewed at Obama for the past 8 years?  What will Trump do when conspiracy nuts start calling him a reptilian?
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#33
RE: Anti LGBT dick Pence confronted at Hamilton
I for one just loved how Trump said the theater is supposed to be a safe space, after running on the antithesis of that for his entire campaign.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#34
RE: Anti LGBT dick Pence confronted at Hamilton
They're still talking about it and how the actor refuses to apologize to Pence.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#35
RE: Anti LGBT dick Pence confronted at Hamilton
(November 21, 2016 at 1:32 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I for one just loved how Trump said the theater is supposed to be a safe space, after running on the antithesis of that for his entire campaign.

He's a bitch who has spent years thinking his team of lawyers makes him an alpha. Now he wants 'safe spaces' so he and his people don't have to deal with protest, however gently worded it may be? Well, fuck him.

That said, it doesn't surprise me that vulgarians like Trump or Pence might be unaware of the theater's long history of provocation. They should stick to state and county fairs and NASCAR events if all they want is an echo chamber.
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#36
RE: Anti LGBT dick Pence confronted at Hamilton
(November 21, 2016 at 1:42 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: He's a bitch who has spent years thinking his team of lawyers makes him an alpha.

That's because people have been treating him like an alpha dog for a very long time. As he himself noted with his "grab them by the pussy" remark, his fame and money are a ticket to all kinds of behavior with few --if any-- consequences. And as President, he can probably still be just as arrogant and vindictive as he always has been as long as he does so privately or as long as his actions meet with the approval of his supporters. His problem will most likely come when he is in press conferences and the media members arrive ready to pepper him with difficult questions that are delivered with thinly-veiled contempt. Can he keep his cool and deliver the occasional zinger without going berzerk? I think that Republicans are most concerned about that and will try to coach him as much as possible. Do I think he can do that? Ummm... not sure. Do I think he will? No. No I do not.
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#37
RE: Anti LGBT dick Pence confronted at Hamilton
(November 21, 2016 at 1:54 pm)Tonus Wrote:
(November 21, 2016 at 1:42 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: He's a bitch who has spent years thinking his team of lawyers makes him an alpha.

That's because people have been treating him like an alpha dog for a very long time.  As he himself noted with his "grab them by the pussy" remark, his fame and money are a ticket to all kinds of behavior with few --if any-- consequences.  And as President, he can probably still be just as arrogant and vindictive as he always has been as long as he does so privately or as long as his actions meet with the approval of his supporters.  His problem will most likely come when he is in press conferences and the media members arrive ready to pepper him with difficult questions that are delivered with thinly-veiled contempt.  Can he keep his cool and deliver the occasional zinger without going berzerk?  I think that Republicans are most concerned about that and will try to coach him as much as possible.  Do I think he can do that?  Ummm... not sure.  Do I think he will?  No.  No I do not.

If I served as one of his advisors, I'd move heaven and earth to keep him away from a microphone if there is no teleprompter from which he can read. The question is, will his ego permit such handling?

I can't wait to see him wing it at his press conferences, which I suspect will be few and far between. The media collectively must be feeling the sting of criticism for having given him such an uncritical free pass throughout much of the campaign season so they could bolster their ratings and rake in advertising revenue. I wouldn't be surprised if a few knives aren't being sharpened among the White House press even as I write this. I don't think he has the knowledge base, patience, or cool under fire to deal with them long term -- unless he resorts to marginalizing reporters for major news outlets that don't report/editorialize in ways he likes. And that will expose him to even more heat in the press. Reporters (as opposed to news bureaus and the corporations that own them) tend to band together when one of their own is perceived to be treated unfairly by a powerful public person.

Mr. Apprentice, who enjoyed billions of dollars of free campaign coverage thanks to the very media he and his supporters excoriate, might become the President with the most poisonous relationship with the press since Nixon. The entertainment value of that would exceed the wildest dreams of the cretins who give us reality TV.
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#38
RE: Anti LGBT dick Pence confronted at Hamilton
(November 21, 2016 at 1:29 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Just wait until he takes office and starts pissing people off.  The job of POTUS has to go to the most thick-skinned among us, because with any president you can be assured that roughly half the country hates you at any given time.  And they will voice that hatred in many different ways, especially online.

Do you think Trump, who blows up at any perceived slight and carries on personal wars over those he perceives to be his enemies could put up with a tenth of all the vitriol spewed at Obama for the past 8 years?  What will Trump do when conspiracy nuts start calling him a reptilian?

Obama has been nothing other than a class act in the face of such vitriol, not to mention the shit he's dealt with from Congress. If Trump were to face a fraction of that, his head would explode on live television.
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#39
RE: Anti LGBT dick Pence confronted at Hamilton
(November 21, 2016 at 12:39 pm)Drich Wrote:
(November 19, 2016 at 12:23 pm)Divinity Wrote: It's fucking hilarious how upset by this conservatives are.  They're such whiny children when people say things they don't like.  But DARE to call out them saying something, and they go apeshit.

Yeah we are so upset we are protesting and hold up traffic and rioting in the streets because we are a bunch a little whinny crybabies because we did not get what we want... Oh wait.. that's not us, never mind.

Have you really forgotten the right's reaction to Obama winning in 08?
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RE: Anti LGBT dick Pence confronted at Hamilton
(November 21, 2016 at 2:33 pm)Aegon Wrote:
(November 21, 2016 at 12:39 pm)Drich Wrote: Yeah we are so upset we are protesting and hold up traffic and rioting in the streets because we are a bunch a little whinny crybabies because we did not get what we want... Oh wait.. that's not us, never mind.

Have you really forgotten the right's reaction to Obama winning in 08?

Yes I do.. we all went to work the next day and said this country in going to be in deep trouble if he gets his way.. we need to try and get control of the house and senate. No one laid down in traffic, no CVS were burned, no one was pulled out of the car and beaten for voting obama. we worked out our problems and took the various seats of power one at a time till we got control of all 3 branches of government
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