Deadliest religion ever?

[The Valkyrie]

So, who brought the popcorn?

[WinterHold]

It's extremely bloody obvious what "No one was ever 'stoned to death' by an atheist." is getting at.

No it's not.


People do bad things. "People". Anger and obsessive psychological tunnels that human brains create, have nothing to do with religion. When people go angry and beat the shit out of somebody, it's because they got angry. A drug can stop that anger and this is what hospitals do.

They don't give you an injection that make you an atheist, they give you an injection that silences the anger. 
Stoning to death is killing. Just like butchering a girlfriend because she likes somebody else, people who stone wives to death are just jealous, angry people who can't control their anger.

If they weren't Christian or Muslim, they will kill with another method.


Being a sick freak has everything to do with not being able to control your emotions. The brain will just find an excuse; Sunni religion, Shiite religion, Christian religion, Jewish religion, all are excuses, a killer is a killer.

[The Grand Nudger]

We're all killers atlas, lol.  I still wouldn't stone a person to death, though, because I'm not a religious nutjob.

[WinterHold]

We're all killers atlas, lol.  I still wouldn't stone a person to death, though, because I'm not a religious nutjob.

The brain handles the logic of action justification, mainly to escape the hammer of judgement by society, courts and judges. 

A person who has a history of rejection by females, might grow up with years and years of piled up hate that end in a crime, with "stoning" being the method used, just because that's his way out in an extremist society.

A person with a hate complex wrote that stoning is legal 2000 years ago, then a string of serial murders followed, with lots of psychopaths choosing that method of murder to justify their inner mental problem. 

If you burn the Hadith books and the Bible and the Talmud, you will burn stoning , but people will find more sneaky ways to stab, slit-throat,strangle and shoot their girlfriends.

Nancy too will have to do her research to kill men. Religiously brainwashed is not valid since the holy books are burned, but you know. Men have to die anyways.

[The Grand Nudger]

The brain handles the logic of action justification, mainly to escape the hammer of judgement by society, courts and judges. 

A person who has a history of rejection by females, might grow up with years and years of piled up hate that end in a crime, with "stoning" being the method used, just because that's his way out in an extremist society.

A person with a hate complex wrote that stoning is legal 2000 years ago, then a string of serial murders followed, with lots of psychopaths choosing that method of murder to justify their inner mental problem. 

If you burn the Hadith books and the Bible and the Talmud, you will burn stoning justification, but people will find more sneaky ways to stab, slit-throat,strangle and shoot their girlfriends.

Nancy too will have to do her research to kill men. Religiously brainwashed is not valid since the holy books are burned, but you know. Men have to die anyways.

You mean "With or without religion you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things" ?

-agreed.

[paulpablo]

Your logic is faulty again.  Being a part of an meme about religion doesnt change the meaning of the words within the meme.

Never said such a thing. Your logic is so terrible you can't even spot logical steps correctly and you see argumentation that isn't there. I never made such an argument, shit-for-brains.

So for example....

This is a meme about Islam

"A non Muslim has never 'stoned to death" anybody ever."

This meme is incorrect.  The scare quotes don't indicate that the stoning to death is exclusively linked to Islamic beliefs.  A reader would have to jump to an assumption in order to think this is obviously only talking about stoning under Islam.

And this is why, retard, taking things out of context and introducing false analogies does no good.

Stoning people to death as a punishment originated in the Old Testament that predates Islam. The whole point of the meme is that atheism doesn't lead to stoning people to death but religion does.

You are so literal minded it's infuriating.

The truth is that people of all faiths and atheists have stoned people to death which isn't reflected in this meme relating to Islam or the meme previously posted by Min.

Stoning people to death is a religious practice. The fact you think that the meme is referring to literally anyone throwing stones at people until they die even if it's a bunch of atheists in the 21st century stoning each other to death just for the hell of it just shows what a dense moron you are.

It's an Old Testament thing, dude. The point of the meme is that all 3 abrahamic religions originated from the Old Testament with a bunch of horrible shit such as stoning people to death and atheism isn't dangerous but religion is,.

YES the meme says nothing like that but that's because it's NOT FUCKING LITERAL YOU LITERAL-MINDED FUCKTARD.

"No one was ever 'stoned to death' by an atheist" is also most likely incorrect and a statement I doubt it true.  The scare quotes don't indicate that the stoning to death is religious they just indicate an action and claim that atheists don't do this specific act.

It *is* a completely true statement when not taken literally and the scare quotes are only to try and indicate that the meme isn't meant to be taken too seriously and it's just a stab at religion. But unfortunately some people such of yourself are retarded enough to answer it literally like you do.

I'm being very genuine and I don't believe my argument is moronic or obtuse.

You haven't fucking made an argument nor have you refuted any. You wouldn't know argumentation if it smacked you in the face.

You're so fucking disingenuous in your literal play-dumb obtuse responses. You do this shit all the time. You'll probably react to memes such as this:



by saying that "huh that's not true because atheism isn't an immoral belief it's not a belief at all let alone a belief that all those things are wrong. Atheism is simply not believing in gods."

Which is all technically correct BUT THE WHOLE POINT OF THE MEME IS NOT TO BE TECHNICALLY CORRECT IT'S CALLED FACETIOUSNESS YOU DUMB CUNT.

And you do a very poor impression of an intelligent person. I'd tell you to try harder but I'm tired of seeing such epic fails.

For fuck's sake. I have not spent any time on this thread trying to make a logical argument. You are not worthy of that shit and I learned that fucking months and months and months ago.

You don't understand half the shit you talk about. Dumb cunt. Buy a dictionary.

Now I'm going back to bed

Ham you're a lonely internet creep, your sex life consists of furiously masturbating by yourself and you don't have enough resources to afford a KFC bucket.  You are a charity case.

I don't view your opinions with more respect than my own just because they come from you, you have to make a logical argument for your opinions or they won't count for anything.

We have a different opinion about a meme, I don't even know if it's a different opinion.  All I'm saying is that I doubt the statement is true and I don't think scare quotes are being used in the way you think they are.

You don't think your opinions are opinions, you seem to think they're the law.  Do you think I took the meme too seriously?  Ok I genuinely take that opinion on board.  But I do still doubt the statement it's making is true.  

Yes I still will point out other memes which I think are innaccurate because for some reason even though I'm an atheist I dislike arrogant, inaccurate jokes about atheists being inherantly morally superior.

[Edwardo Piet]

We're all killers atlas, lol.  I still wouldn't stone a person to death, though, because I'm not a religious nutjob.

Exactly. Only religious nutjobs engage in the act of 'stoning someone to death'.

And no I don't mean literally and to be honest it's rather sad that even the scare quotes isn't enough for some intentionally obtuse people.

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Ham you're a lonely internet creep, your sex life consists of furiously masturbating by yourself and you don't have enough resources to afford a KFC bucket.  You are a charity case.

You're right about everything apart from the 'creep' and 'charity case' part. I notice you reach those conclusions via no logical process as per usual.

I don't view your opinions with more respect than my own just because they come from you, you have to make a logical argument for your opinions or they won't count for anything.

The fact you're willingly ignorant is not my problem. Just because I don't bother making a logical argument doesn't mean I can't.

This matter doesn't require logical argument either. It requires you knowing how to find the most reasonable interpretation of the meme which requires basic common sense and the ability to understand the relevant context. I can't teach you that.

We have a different opinion about a meme, I don't even know if it's a different opinion.  All I'm saying is that I doubt the statement is true and I don't think scare quotes are being used in the way you think they are.

The statement isn't true if taken literally but the whole point of the meme makes no sense if it's taken literally. It's beyond obvious what the meme is getting at.

You don't think your opinions are opinions, you seem to think they're the law.

Not surprisingly you reached that conclusion via nothing I've actually said.

  Do you think I took the meme too seriously?

You deliberately took it too literally in order to be obtuse and difficult. You played dumb in order to further reinforce your own presuppositions.

Ok I genuinely take that opinion on board.  But I do still doubt the statement it's making is true.

Then you haven't taken it on board, nitwit. If the opinion I hold is that it obviously isn't being literal then to doubt the statement is true is equivocating because the statement itself isn't being literal if you truly take the opinion I hold on board.

If you're gonna do logic you have to actually make valid arguments and follow logical steps not just point out fallacies that aren't being made and claim people are saying things they aren't. You have to actually deal with an explicit argument being made or make an explicit argument yourself if you're gonna do logic. You can have a valid argument that isn't sound, yes, but you can't have a sound argument that isn't valid... and you're trying to make sound arguments without any validity involved and fight against unsound arguments that don''t have the validity OR invalidity displayed to make it an argument at all.

Conclusions without premises that lead to them aren't arguments so if all you are seeing is my conclusions and my stating that it is obvious then it's retarded to say I'm making fallacies or invalid arguments when to do that I'd have to actually have some premises and say they LEAD to those conclusions which I haven't said.

Yes I still will point out other memes which I think are innaccurate because for some reason even though I'm an atheist I dislike arrogant, inaccurate jokes about atheists being inherantly morally superior.

Something isn't an invalid argument when an argument isn't even being made and something isn't being inaccurate when the whole point isn't even aiming at accuracy but is instead being facetious, taking a stab at religion and hinting at the fact that religious ideas do harm but atheism doesn't.

When someone calls you a jackass they're not making an argument that you're a donkey and being fallcious about it. They're not arguing anything at all, they're just calling you a jackass and they're not saying you're a donkey.

The fact you're doing the equivalent of that and being a dense intentionally obtuse disingenuous fuckwit is not my problem.

[ukatheist]

Am I the only one completely befuzzled by this argument?

The meme says that atheists don't stone people so the implication is that non-atheists i.e. theists do. I don't think it is unreasonable to infer that, since the only difference between theists and atheists as a group are that theists believe in god(s), that this is in fact in reference to religious beliefs. Perhaps Hammy was incorrect to restrict this to just the bible but possibly you're being a little over-pedantic here Paul?

As to whether it is factually true, idk, I doubt judaism invented stoning, so likely used as a killing method by earlier religions/nations/non-religious groups. According to wiki, it was used as an execution method by the Aztecs too. I also think that there are likely many religions that didn't/don't use it, so singling out atheists as morally superior just because they (possibly) haven't/don't stone people is a bit disingenuous. Plenty of atheists support the death penalty to this day. Person still ends up dead, does it make a huge amount of difference if one is seemingly more 'humane' than the other?

Fwiw I also hate that 'good people/evil people' quote and meme, since in my view good and evil are religious concepts - so it actually needs religion for any of them.

But in my experience meme's are usually technically inaccurate, after all they are just soundbites with pictures, so really not something to get all worked up about.







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[WinterHold]

We're all killers atlas, lol.  I still wouldn't stone a person to death, though, because I'm not a religious nutjob.

Exactly. Only religious nutjobs engage in the act of 'stoning someone to death'.

And no I don't mean literally and to be honest it's rather sad that even the scare quotes isn't enough for some intentionally obtuse people.

Ignoring what I wrote, because you can't find anything rational to face it with, is exactly the opposite of the word "exactly".

To be honest, it's so sad to see somebody using religion as a justification for their own mindset; kill butcher stone burn then throw it on Jesus or Mohammed. 

A guy somewhere, dealing with rejection through raping his school crush, then blame the way she dresses. That is what stoning to death is; husbands that can't handle the insult of their wives fucking other men.

Keep dreaming of a higher self.

[Edwardo Piet]

The meme says that atheists don't stone people so the implication is that non-atheists i.e. theists do. I don't think it is unreasonable to infer that, since the only difference between theists and atheists as a group are that theists believe in god(s), that this is in fact in reference to religious beliefs. Perhaps Hammy was incorrect to restrict this to just the bible but possibly you're being a little over-pedantic here Paul?

I agree with all of that and he definitely is.

Biblical stoning certainly isn't the only kind of religious stoning because it applies to Islam too but all 3 abrahamic religions originate from the old testament where biblical stoning started... I think this is clearly a meme that dates back to the 'new atheist' wave that was highly influenced by Dawkins book The God Delusion (which I've read repeatedly) and the evilness of the Old Testament and biblical stoning is certainly something Dawkins bangs on and on about in it.

And yeah you wouldn't put it in these words but I think Paul is being a pedantic tosser and intentionally dense cunt Deliberately literal minded to even state truths so irrelevant like I accidentally referered to an incomplete sentence as a sentence because many people coloquially make their sentences incomplete and still call them sentences. He may as well have corrected a bunch of typos I'd made and told me that therefore what I was saying made no sense

He's indeed a prick. He does this. He's not this dumb but he does play this dumb.

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As to whether it is factually true, idk, I doubt judaism invented stoning, so likely used as a killing method by earlier religions/nations/non-religious groups. According to wiki, it was used as an execution method by the Aztecs too. I also think that there are likely many religions that didn't/don't use it, so singling out atheists as morally superior just because they (possibly) haven't/don't stone people is a bit disingenuous. Plenty of atheists support the death penalty to this day. Person still ends up dead, does it make a huge amount of difference if one is seemingly more 'humane' than the other?

Yeah I agree Judaism definitely didn't start stoning to death as a punishment but I doubt the meme is referring to anything earlier than that.

It could be actually, yeah. But the point still stands that no one was ever 'stoned to death' by an atheist makes sense in a non-literal-minded-fuckface way and the scare quotes are relevant (It's to say "this is tongue in cheek").

Fwiw I also hate that 'good people/evil people' quote and meme, since in my view good and evil are religious concepts - so it actually needs religion for any of them.

Your way of defining 'good/evil' altogether as a religious thing goes beyond just saying 'sin' doesn't exist. And I kind of like that approach actually. It's kind of cool of you. It's a type of nihilism without the emptiness that's definitely cool. I actually think that's kind of hip in an attractive/sexy/kind of hot way too.

Yeah I know I'm weird as fuck lol.

But in my experience meme's are usually technically inaccurate, after all they are just soundbites with pictures, so really not something to get all worked up about.

Yeah I agree the whole point is they're just catchy stuff and that meme is just making a tongue-in-cheek point and taking a stab at religion. It's not aiming to be technically accurate.