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So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
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RE: So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
"...then split!"
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#22
RE: So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
I find that video creepy. I get that it was probably started as a parody, since it says it was founded by two British comedians (who I've never heard of), and that it may still be, but it sounds like some people are starting to take it seriously in the name of community etc. I have no issue with community but does it need to be deliberately associated with everything that is boring and cringeworthy about a church (eg singing songs, waving your arms in the air, and worshipping the ceiling)? If I went there then no matter how interesting the 'sermon' was I wouldn't be able to get those deep-rooted associations out of my mind... that a church like that is a place to go be bored and feel like an idiot on a Sunday. I realise that it may have some deeper significance in that regard, perhaps like an extension of FSM thinking and with the aim of undoing some of those associations, but still... for me, those are associations they can keep, because there's no need for me to ever set foot in a church again (or at least not very often)... so no need to deprogram them... ie it's not a bad thing that church has those associations, indeed it just provides further reason not to go.
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RE: So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
(April 22, 2017 at 8:44 am)emjay Wrote: I find that video creepy. I get that it was probably started as a parody, since it says it was founded by two British comedians (who I've never heard of), and that it may still be, but it sounds like some people are starting to take it seriously in the name of community etc. I have no issue with community but does it need to be deliberately associated with everything that is boring and cringeworthy about a church (eg singing songs, waving your arms in the air, and worshipping the ceiling)? If I went there then no matter how interesting the 'sermon' was I wouldn't be able to get those deep-rooted associations out of my mind... that a church like that is a place to go be bored and feel like an idiot on a Sunday. I realise that it may have some deeper significance in that regard, perhaps like an extension of FSM thinking and with the aim of undoing some of those associations, but still... for me, those are associations they can keep, because there's no need for me to ever set foot in a church again (or at least not very often)... so no need to deprogram them... ie it's not a bad thing that church has those associations, indeed it just provides further reason not to go.

The worst part would be having to wake up early Sunday morning just to go to a silly/boring church. No thanks, I'd rather sleep in on Sunday.
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RE: So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
(April 22, 2017 at 8:51 am)Grandizer Wrote:
(April 22, 2017 at 8:44 am)emjay Wrote: I find that video creepy. I get that it was probably started as a parody, since it says it was founded by two British comedians (who I've never heard of), and that it may still be, but it sounds like some people are starting to take it seriously in the name of community etc. I have no issue with community but does it need to be deliberately associated with everything that is boring and cringeworthy about a church (eg singing songs, waving your arms in the air, and worshipping the ceiling)? If I went there then no matter how interesting the 'sermon' was I wouldn't be able to get those deep-rooted associations out of my mind... that a church like that is a place to go be bored and feel like an idiot on a Sunday. I realise that it may have some deeper significance in that regard, perhaps like an extension of FSM thinking and with the aim of undoing some of those associations, but still... for me, those are associations they can keep, because there's no need for me to ever set foot in a church again (or at least not very often)... so no need to deprogram them... ie it's not a bad thing that church has those associations, indeed it just provides further reason not to go.

The worst part would be having to wake up early Sunday morning just to go to a silly/boring church. No thanks, I'd rather sleep in on Sunday.

It's been so long I don't really remember the 'morning routine' Wink but I do remember that that the sorts of churches we went to were just like that... though thankfully, as me and my sister got older, our parents gave us more and more autonomy, to not go to Sunday school... so by our teens instead of Sunday school we were playing imaginary Doctor Who... daleks etc in the woods outside the church Wink but still, we did have to sit through a bit of it before going because Sunday school started a while into it.
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RE: So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
(April 21, 2017 at 4:27 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: ...and this drunk comes in and tries to get you to drink out of the bottle he's been sucking on, apparently for some time now.[Image: blink.gif] He insists that the rot gut is better than tea and you should try his favorite brand because it's really great.You decline and he gets angry that you would not agree to get as besotted as him. You explain that tea and booze aren't in the same drink category and booze is actually rather bad for the person drinking it. He then attacks you for being "closed minded" about booze. 

You can see where this is going, right?

And here was I thinking this was going to be about the time Batman burst out the seat under you and gave you a wedgie.
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(April 21, 2017 at 7:56 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(April 21, 2017 at 5:20 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: For theists, especially the proselytezers we get here. 

As for alcohol, we don't live our lives out drunk ... mostly.

Except that alcohol is delicious and being drunk is fun. Being a Theist is boring and shitty.

Alcohol doesn't care if you switch brands, or decide to give it up altogether. As a wise man once said, the world is littered with failed alcoholics.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
(April 22, 2017 at 3:58 am)Huggy74 Wrote: You guys are hilarious. You do realize that even atheists are getting up and going to "church" on Sundays and they don't even believe in any reward... So who's the joke really on?




C'mon, man! How common do you think that actually is amongst True Atheists™️?
Why, I wouldn't caught DEAD with those bitch-ass heathens! Absolutely no conviction to speak of, either way.
Tsk,tsk, tsk...

They're like...pesco-vegetarians, or some shit like that. It's disgusting! Big Grin
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RE: So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
(April 22, 2017 at 6:42 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: So what? Are they like the drunk in the OP? No, they're just hanging out with like-minded people. Some folks liked the "community" of a church, but simply couldn't buy the bullshit that went with it.

https://www.sundayassembly.com/

This is a notice that I am quitting the work that I was doing day-to-day and using my time as CEO (I’m not going anywhere!) to do the thing that is needed more than ever – devoting as much of my energies as possible to spreading the word of what Sunday Assembly does.

I don't see the difference.

(April 23, 2017 at 9:27 pm)Thena323 Wrote: C'mon, man! How common do you think that actually is amongst True Atheists™️?
Why, I wouldn't caught DEAD with those bitch-ass heathens! Absolutely no conviction to speak of, either way.
Tsk,tsk, tsk...

They're like...pesco-vegetarians, or some shit like that. It's disgusting! Big Grin

Well...

They have a sizable following.

[Image: e428c7e3-b854-468d-9842-92f162da9897.png]

Hey, every religion had to start somewhere.  Big Grin
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RE: So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
1. A group of people gathering to do church like activities doesn't make them a religion so yes there is a difference  no matter how much you wanna push the "but your religious to narrative"

2. One person who has money and free time and devotes himself to providing a social atmosphere for atheists some who miss the atmosphere of a church community  being raised in a religious culture but don't buy the religion anymore   .Is not the same as gathering to talk about an ancient collection of fairytales and sing homes to imaginary friend in the sky.

3. The fact that there are a number of these does not refute the two points above.


4. Why should they care about rewards ?
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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