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So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
#51
RE: So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
Wine is better than both. Wine is the solution to everything.
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#52
RE: So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
(April 26, 2017 at 1:57 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(April 26, 2017 at 1:46 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: Technically yes it's a dry county, but if you have an out of county address you can buy collector's edition bottle of various JD products in the distillery gift shop. If you want to pay double the price for them...

I drink Scotch.

I like scotch (just polished off a bottle of The Glenlivet 12 YO), but usually have corn squeezins' like Wild Turkey 101 Proof. More of a Highland/Speyside (like Macallan) drinker, I don't like the Islays because of the strong peat taste.

BoT, I'd tell him to take his swill down the street, same as I tell people who have the nerve to come to my door and sell their "special" brand of jeebus.
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#53
RE: So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
I love the "you're just as bad as I am" line of reasoning.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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#54
RE: So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
(April 26, 2017 at 11:09 pm)Fireball Wrote:
(April 26, 2017 at 1:57 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I drink Scotch.

I like scotch (just polished off a bottle of The Glenlivet 12 YO), but usually have corn squeezins' like Wild Turkey 101 Proof. More of a Highland/Speyside (like Macallan) drinker, I don't like the Islays because of the strong peat taste.

BoT, I'd tell him to take his swill down the street, same as I tell people who have the nerve to come to my door and sell their "special" brand of jeebus.
I'm pretty much Speyside myself. Got a bottle of Bruichladdich from a friend and drank it, but for peat's sake!
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#55
RE: So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
(April 25, 2017 at 4:37 pm)Thena323 Wrote: Meh...Some  people just enjoy being "social" and what not. 
Folks of all stripes love flapping their gums, and getting free little ham sandwiches, coffee cake, shit like that. It's universal; no religion required.

Though, I don't doubt there are few militant-type atheist meetups that reek of quasi-religious kookiness, I'd imagine that most attendees of these services simply miss the feeling of fellowship, goofy sing-alongs, and opportunities to run/stuff their pieholes.

I want my ham sammich, damn it.

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#56
RE: So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
(April 26, 2017 at 7:45 pm)Orochi Wrote:
(April 26, 2017 at 10:50 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
  • Satanism depends of the Satanists but Satanism is a philosophy  not a religion
  • Buddhism - Bishamonten isn't a god ?-Plus the Dalia lama has condemned atheism
  • Jainism- Is a branch of Hinduism thus accepts the existence of the brahma and the Hindu trinity  
  • Confucianism- I already addressed this Confucianism  makes no sense without deities
  • Shinto-Amaterasu isn't a goddess?
  • Taoism- Has gods just no creator god

There corrected none of these religions exclusively reject the premise of a god all have either historically had gods and worship of them

Satanism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism
Quote:LaVey espoused the view that "god" is a creation of man, rather than man being a creation of "god". In his book, The Satanic Bible, the Satanist's view of god is described as the Satanist's true "self"—a projection of his or her own personality—not an external deity.

Buddhism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism
Quote:Pratityasamutpada, also called "dependent arising, or dependent origination", is the Buddhist theory to explain the nature and relations of being, becoming, existence and ultimate reality. Buddhism asserts that there is nothing independent, except the state of nirvana. All physical and mental states depend on and arise from other pre-existing states, and in turn from them arise other dependent states while they cease. The 'dependent arisings' have a causal conditioning, and thus Pratityasamutpada is the Buddhist belief that causality is the basis of ontology, not a creator God nor the ontological Vedic concept called universal Self (Brahman) nor any other 'transcendent creative principle'. However, the Buddhist thought does not understand causality in terms of Newtonian mechanics, rather it understands it as conditioned arising. In Buddhism, dependent arising is referring to conditions created by a plurality of causes that necessarily co-originate a phenomenon within and across lifetimes, such as karma in one life creating conditions that lead to rebirth in one of realms of existence for another lifetime.

Jainism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism
Quote:Jainism (/ˈdʒeɪnɪzəm/ or /ˈdʒaɪnɪzəm/), traditionally known as Jain Dharma,is an ancient Indian religion belonging to the Śramaṇa tradition. The central tenet is non-violence and respect towards all living beings. The three main principles of Jainism are ahimsa ("non-violence"), anekantavada ("non-absolutism"), and aparigraha ("non-possessiveness").

Quote:Jain texts reject the idea of a creator or destroyer God and postulate an eternal universe.

Confucianism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confucianism
Quote:Confucianism is definitively pantheistic, nontheistic and humanistic, in that it is not based on the belief in the supernatural or in a personal god that doesn't impact reality.
Shinto
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Shinto
Quote:Shinto does not require any profession of faith, nor does it have any systematic doctrine. There are no scriptures or holy works associated with Shinto, only various myths, long-held traditions, and a general overarching understanding of how the world works and what human roles within that world should be. Most of the people who actively practice Shinto (as opposed to just going to festivals, or doing folk magic because "it's what mom did") are also Buddhists. Unlike most Western religions, the basic tenets of Shinto are compatible with any other belief system. The majority of people who practice Shinto self-identify as "atheist".

Taoism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism
Quote:Taoism can be defined as pantheistic*, given its philosophical emphasis on the formlessness of the Tao and the primacy of the "Way" rather than anthropomorphic concepts of God. This is one of the core beliefs that nearly all the sects share.


*Pantheism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism
Quote:Pantheism is the belief that all reality is identical with divinity, or that everything composes an all-encompassing, immanent god. Pantheists thus do not believe in a distinct personal or anthropomorphic god.
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#57
RE: So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
Ah, you mean agnostic religions.
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#58
RE: So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
(April 27, 2017 at 12:11 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Ah, you mean agnostic religions.

Er..what is an agnostic religion?  Huggy's mostly correct in that there are sects of some religions that don't believe in a god, and are atheistic.
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#59
RE: So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
(April 27, 2017 at 10:17 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I want my ham sammich, damn it.

Hey, buddy..You can't just walk in off the street, demanding sammiches! 
You HAVE to attend services! Dodgy

You have a certain allure, though; A je ne sais quoi, if you will. 
I'll make an exception:

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#60
RE: So, you're sitting in a tea shop, quietly reading a book...
(April 27, 2017 at 11:11 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(April 26, 2017 at 7:45 pm)Orochi Wrote: There corrected none of these religions exclusively reject the premise of a god all have either historically had gods and worship of them

Satanism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism
Quote:LaVey espoused the view that "god" is a creation of man, rather than man being a creation of "god". In his book, The Satanic Bible, the Satanist's view of god is described as the Satanist's true "self"—a projection of his or her own personality—not an external deity.

Buddhism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism
Quote:Pratityasamutpada, also called "dependent arising, or dependent origination", is the Buddhist theory to explain the nature and relations of being, becoming, existence and ultimate reality. Buddhism asserts that there is nothing independent, except the state of nirvana. All physical and mental states depend on and arise from other pre-existing states, and in turn from them arise other dependent states while they cease. The 'dependent arisings' have a causal conditioning, and thus Pratityasamutpada is the Buddhist belief that causality is the basis of ontology, not a creator God nor the ontological Vedic concept called universal Self (Brahman) nor any other 'transcendent creative principle'. However, the Buddhist thought does not understand causality in terms of Newtonian mechanics, rather it understands it as conditioned arising. In Buddhism, dependent arising is referring to conditions created by a plurality of causes that necessarily co-originate a phenomenon within and across lifetimes, such as karma in one life creating conditions that lead to rebirth in one of realms of existence for another lifetime.

Jainism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism
Quote:Jainism (/ˈdʒeɪnɪzəm/ or /ˈdʒaɪnɪzəm/), traditionally known as Jain Dharma,is an ancient Indian religion belonging to the Śramaṇa tradition. The central tenet is non-violence and respect towards all living beings. The three main principles of Jainism are ahimsa ("non-violence"), anekantavada ("non-absolutism"), and aparigraha ("non-possessiveness").

Quote:Jain texts reject the idea of a creator or destroyer God and postulate an eternal universe.

Confucianism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confucianism
Quote:Confucianism is definitively pantheistic, nontheistic and humanistic, in that it is not based on the belief in the supernatural or in a personal god that doesn't impact reality.
Shinto
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Shinto
Quote:Shinto does not require any profession of faith, nor does it have any systematic doctrine. There are no scriptures or holy works associated with Shinto, only various myths, long-held traditions, and a general overarching understanding of how the world works and what human roles within that world should be. Most of the people who actively practice Shinto (as opposed to just going to festivals, or doing folk magic because "it's what mom did") are also Buddhists. Unlike most Western religions, the basic tenets of Shinto are compatible with any other belief system. The majority of people who practice Shinto self-identify as "atheist".

Taoism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism
Quote:Taoism can be defined as pantheistic*, given its philosophical emphasis on the formlessness of the Tao and the primacy of the "Way" rather than anthropomorphic concepts of God. This is one of the core beliefs that nearly all the sects share.


*Pantheism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism
Quote:Pantheism is the belief that all reality is identical with divinity, or that everything composes an all-encompassing, immanent god. Pantheists thus do not believe in a distinct personal or anthropomorphic god.

As I have twice no CREATOR GODS but they still believe in a form of GODS also note what I said about "TRADITIONALLY " .

Some more notes

1. It's doesn't matter how many  followers of Shinto have abandon there theism Shinto has gods. (I named one) This just means there doing cultural Shinto (a pillar of Japanese culture) not following the religion .

2. The portion on Jains makes no sense all Hindu's are externalists.  As they reject linear time and view reality as a cycle of creation and destruction (destruction isn't the end it's just a phase ) And in old trinity (the one the Jains traditionally accept). There was no destruction just waking, waning and sleeping.  But it's still a trinity of states of the brahma. Did I mention they don't reject the rest of the Hindu pantheon.

3. Again for Taoist you ignore cultivation of immortality

4. pantheism is still a believe in A GOD that's why it's called pantheism and not atheism

Once again you didn't read my posts and have shoved Abrahamic presumptions onto other cultures

(April 27, 2017 at 5:54 pm)Orochi Wrote:
(April 27, 2017 at 11:11 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Satanism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism

Buddhism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism

Jainism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism


Confucianism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confucianism
Shinto
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Shinto

Taoism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism


*Pantheism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

As I have twice no CREATOR GODS but they still believe in a form of GODS also note what I said about "TRADITIONALLY " .

Some more notes

1. It's doesn't matter how many  followers of Shinto have abandon there theism Shinto has gods. (I named one) This just means there doing cultural Shinto (a pillar of Japanese culture) not following the religion .

2. The portion on Jains makes no sense all Hindu's are externalists.  As they reject linear time and view reality as a cycle of creation and destruction (destruction isn't the end it's just a phase ) And in old trinity (the one the Jains traditionally accept). There was no destruction just waking, waning and sleeping.  But it's still a trinity of states of the brahma. Did I mention they don't reject the rest of the Hindu pantheon.

3. Again for Taoist you ignore cultivation of immortality

4. pantheism is still a believe in A GOD that's why it's called pantheism and not atheism

Once again you didn't read my posts and have shoved Abrahamic presumptions onto other cultures


Oh and on Satanism modern is just cultural Satanism which derived from cultic pagans worship ( and yes Satan was seen as a god )
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