Trump revealed highly classified information to Russ. foreign minister and ambassador

[Fireball]

I would be [sort of] OK with a president revealing intelligence when it is to a strategic advantage. That really isn't my call, and he should be in the know. But the Chump is a stumbling buffoon with zit point shit government experience, and giving it to the Russians is so fucking stupid that it defies belief (not). It's all going to come out eventually, hopefully sooner rather than later. I know a guy who thinks that the Chump knows what he's doing and is OK with that leak to the Russians. He's a retired police lieutenant. If we get on this topic again, I'll just ask him what he would do if he encountered a person on the street who was raving like the Chump.

[scoobysnack]

All that was mentioned was what was already in the news! Did you all read the article? Isis is working on putting bombs in laptops to get them on planes. That's what this story is about.

http://www.newsweek.com/what-we-know-abo...sia-609841

It was talked about back in march, so when I read this I was like this seems like just another scandel of Trump derangement syndrom because they know the public is not that bright, and is easily led by the media and really doesn't read much more than past the first 3 paragraphs of an article. Plus the US is working with Russia to fight Isis believe it or not. During Obama, the military was funding proxy armies that worked with Isis and that's the deep state secret they don't want the public to be aware of. Those proxy armies were used to help overthrow Lybia and the ones currently fighting in Syria. It's scary people don't understand this because if known, you would understand the big picture.

[Aegon]

All that was mentioned was what was already in the news! Did you all read the article? Isis is working on putting bombs in laptops to get them on planes. That's what this story is about.

http://www.newsweek.com/what-we-know-abo...sia-609841

It was talked about back in march, so when I read this I was like this seems like just another scandel of Trump derangement syndrom because they know the public is not that bright, and is easily led by the media and really doesn't read much more than past the first 3 paragraphs of an article. Plus the US is working with Russia to fight Isis believe it or not. During Obama, the military was funding proxy armies that worked with Isis and that's the deep state secret they don't want the public to be aware of. Those proxy armies were used to help overthrow Lybia and the ones currently fighting in Syria. It's scary people don't understand this because if known, you would understand the big picture.

You don't get the point, do you?

[scoobysnack]

All that was mentioned was what was already in the news! Did you all read the article? Isis is working on putting bombs in laptops to get them on planes. That's what this story is about.

http://www.newsweek.com/what-we-know-abo...sia-609841

It was talked about back in march, so when I read this I was like this seems like just another scandel of Trump derangement syndrom because they know the public is not that bright, and is easily led by the media and really doesn't read much more than past the first 3 paragraphs of an article. Plus the US is working with Russia to fight Isis believe it or not. During Obama, the military was funding proxy armies that worked with Isis and that's the deep state secret they don't want the public to be aware of. Those proxy armies were used to help overthrow Lybia and the ones currently fighting in Syria. It's scary people don't understand this because if known, you would understand the big picture.

You don't get the point, do you?

I really don't think it's as big of a deal as they are making it out to be. US special forces train with Russian special forces here in the US and have been doing this for years. We work with them on the international space station. I think this is more about public perception management using confirmation bias of those that think Russia is the enemy who prevent Clinton and led to Trump. It's a distraction from the Seth Rich story. I think they are playing on the political ignorance of the general public and not putting things into perspective. Also why is there no concern about who is leaking this. Why is no one mentioning the Washington post is run by Jeff Bezos who had the contract with the CIA. To me it sounds like a disinformation campaign psy-op meant to push the narrative that Russia is colluding with Trump both ways.

There is a reason the entire establishment was backing and funding the Clinton campaign. All of wall street was pushing Clinton. A lot of money was lost, and they want to take back control of the country because Trump is not controlled by them and just wants prosperity. Clinton was supposed to be the final nail in the coffin and implement the strategy to finally take control of the country. This is why they are pushing to have him removed. You think Trump is bad? You have no idea how evil the people are that want Trump removed. This was supposed to be the final plan, and Trump derailed it. The elite expected divine intervention, and Trump was it which gives us a few more years.

Trump is doing a lot more to bring this country back than is being talked about because they only focus on bashing him. These people don't care about the general public. They are the ones who believe they are too stupid and therefore it would be reckless and irresponsible to let the people be in charge of their lives. Trump just wants prosperity for the nation. The stock market is now going down because there is doubt he will be able to implement the lower taxes and better business practices if the Dems and deep state stop the growth. The dems want to destroy everything, and really clinton's only campaign focused on that she wasn't Trump. She would have destroyed the country. and now you people want to destroy yourselves. Unbelievable!

[The Grand Nudger]

So, you've tied the messiah (no...not jesus) to god( republican jesus) and hillary's death squads?

You must get up very early in the morning.

[Aegon]

You don't get the point, do you?

I really don't think it's as big of a deal as they are making it out to be. US special forces train with Russian special forces here in the US and have been doing this for years. We work with them on the international space station. I think this is more about public perception management using confirmation bias of those that think Russia is the enemy who prevent Clinton and led to Trump. It's a distraction from the Seth Rich story. I think they are playing on the political ignorance of the general public and not putting things into perspective. Also why is there no concern about who is leaking this. Why is no one mentioning the Washington post is run by Jeff Bezos who had the contract with the CIA. To me it sounds like a disinformation campaign psy-op meant to push the narrative that Russia is colluding with Trump both ways.

There is a reason the entire establishment was backing and funding the Clinton campaign. All of wall street was pushing Clinton. A lot of money was lost, and they want to take back control of the country because Trump is not controlled by them and just wants prosperity. Clinton was supposed to be the final nail in the coffin and implement the strategy to finally take control of the country. This is why they are pushing to have him removed. You think Trump is bad? You have no idea how evil the people are that want Trump removed. This was supposed to be the final plan, and Trump derailed it. The elite expected divine intervention, and Trump was it which gives us a few more years.

Trump is doing a lot more to bring this country back than is being talked about because they only focus on bashing him. These people don't care about the general public. They are the ones who believe they are too stupid and therefore it would be reckless and irresponsible to let the people be in charge of their lives. Trump just wants prosperity for the nation. The stock market is now going down because there is doubt he will be able to implement the lower taxes and better business practices if the Dems and deep state stop the growth. The dems want to destroy everything, and really clinton's only campaign focused on that she wasn't Trump. She would have destroyed the country. and now you people want to destroy yourselves. Unbelievable!

First of all, nobody needs to be distracted from a non-story.

Secondly, you don't think the banks, corporations, love Trump? Maybe at first he was unpredictable. But all he wants to do is deregulate! Deregulate! He put the man who wants to eliminate the EPA in charge...of the EPA. He put the man who wants to eliminate the Dept of Energy in charge...of the Dept of Energy. He put a woman who wants to gut public school funding in charge of the Dept of Education. He put the guy who wants to gut net neutrality laws in charge of the FCC. He has several Goldman Sachs bankers in his cabinet and high positions in the federal government. I can't even imagine what people would be saying if Clinton was that transparent with Wall Street connections. Ridiculous.

You always paint yourself as a self-righteous leftist disillusioned with the Dems but you're not . You make excuses for Trump because you refuse to believe anything anybody besides Alex Jones says. Everything that goes against your narrative of the savior Trump is fake news. Trump could straight-up admit to colluding with Russia and you'd probably say "Uh uh the globalist forced him to do it!" Because you're an idiot. If I'm a "slave" to the fake "mainstream media", you're a slave to the alt-right and conspiracy media. You're no better than I am no matter how much you think you are.

I used to read and listen to InfoWars. For a number of years. Then I grew a brain. Feel free to do that as well.

[Brian37]

You don't get the point, do you?

I really don't think it's as big of a deal as they are making it out to be. US special forces train with Russian special forces here in the US and have been doing this for years. We work with them on the international space station. I think this is more about public perception management using confirmation bias of those that think Russia is the enemy who prevent Clinton and led to Trump. It's a distraction from the Seth Rich story. I think they are playing on the political ignorance of the general public and not putting things into perspective. Also why is there no concern about who is leaking this. Why is no one mentioning the Washington post is run by Jeff Bezos who had the contract with the CIA. To me it sounds like a disinformation campaign psy-op meant to push the narrative that Russia is colluding with Trump both ways.

There is a reason the entire establishment was backing and funding the Clinton campaign. All of wall street was pushing Clinton. A lot of money was lost, and they want to take back control of the country because Trump is not controlled by them and just wants prosperity. Clinton was supposed to be the final nail in the coffin and implement the strategy to finally take control of the country. This is why they are pushing to have him removed. You think Trump is bad? You have no idea how evil the people are that want Trump removed. This was supposed to be the final plan, and Trump derailed it. The elite expected divine intervention, and Trump was it which gives us a few more years.

Trump is doing a lot more to bring this country back than is being talked about because they only focus on bashing him. These people don't care about the general public. They are the ones who believe they are too stupid and therefore it would be reckless and irresponsible to let the people be in charge of their lives. Trump just wants prosperity for the nation. The stock market is now going down because there is doubt he will be able to implement the lower taxes and better business practices if the Dems and deep state stop the growth. The dems want to destroy everything, and really clinton's only campaign focused on that she wasn't Trump. She would have destroyed the country. and now you people want to destroy yourselves. Unbelievable!

Bullshit, Trump is a bombastic selfish narcissist and scapegoated his way to his win, burned his way through the primaries scorching his own beyond recognition, attacked war hero McCain, a man of his party. Spent his campaign attacking 17 agencies who said Russia was involved in interfering in our election. 

You'd call 50 former republican law agents evil, because even those REPUBLICANS said he would be dangerous if he became president. 

Saying we deal with our enemies is not an argument. Our presidents in our entire country's history have dealt with our enemies, that is not the issue here. The issue is his mental state most of all, but just as equal is the way he has conducted himself during the campaign, the potential of corruption and blackmail are there. His constant bashing of intel also creates a lack of trust and division in intel and erodes public trust. 

Trump is way beyond political and economic party issues. His unstable behavior is a danger to national security.

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[Aegon]

Trump's disclosure endangered spy placed inside ISIS by Israel, officials say

The life of a spy placed by Israel inside ISIS is at risk tonight, according to current and former U.S. officials, after President Donald Trump reportedly disclosed classified information in a meeting with Russian officials last week.

The spy provided intelligence involving an active ISIS plot to bring down a passenger jet en route to the United States, with a bomb hidden in a laptop that U.S. officials believe can get through airport screening machines undetected. The information was reliable enough that the U.S. is considering a ban on laptops on all flights from Europe to the United States.

The sensitive intelligence was shared with the United States, officials say, on the condition that the source remain confidential.

“The real risk is not just this source,” said Matt Olsen, the former Director of the National Counterterrorism Center and an ABC News contributor, “but future sources of information about plots against us.”

ISIS has already taken credit for blowing up a Russian airliner two years ago, killing more than 200 people, claiming the bomb was hidden in a soft drink can. The White House National Security Adviser says that justifies President Trump’s disclosures to the Russians.

“And so this was the context of the conversation in which it was wholly appropriate to share what the threat was as a basis for common action and coordination,” said General H.R. McMasters on Tuesday.

When pressed by ABC News' Jonathan Karl, McMaster would not say if Trump disclosed classified information. Trump said in a pair of tweets Tuesday he had the "absolute right" to share "facts" with the Russians.

But many in the counter-terrorism community say what the President did was a mistake.

“Russia is not part of the ISIS coalition,” Olsen said. “They are not our partner.”

Dan Shapiro, the former U.S. ambassador to Israel, now a senior visiting fellow at the Institute for National Security Studies in Tel Aviv, agreed. In an interview with ABC News, he called the president and his team “careless,” saying that the reported disclosures demonstrate a “poor understanding of how to guard sensitive information."

Shapiro was most concerned, however, that the president’s move could make Israel think twice about sharing intelligence with the United States, warning that it will “inevitably cause elements of Israel's intelligence service to demonstrate more caution.”

The reaction in Congress appeared to diverge along partisan lines. Asked if he had concerns about the president’s handling of classified information, the Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell let out a small laugh and before replying simply, "No."

But Democrats disagree. Shortly after McConnell's comments, Democratic Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer reiterated his call for the White House to release full, unedited transcripts of Trump's meeting with the Russian officials.

"This is not normal behavior. This is not how a White House should operate," Schumer said. "Firing an FBI director who is investigating the president’s campaign, disclosing classified information to a country that wishes us harm and just finished undermining the integrity of our elections. We need our Republican colleagues to join us in standing up, to put country over party."

[Zenith]

This is one of those moments I realize that, no matter who is put as the head of a state, no matter how corrupt, imbecile, retarded, fucked up in every possible way, there will still be a good portion of the population who supports him, and after he's gone they will say "He was the best president that we ever had!"

[Brian37]

This is one of those moments I realize that, no matter who is put as the head of a state, no matter how corrupt, imbecile, retarded, fucked up in every possible way, there will still be a good portion of the population who supports him, and after he's gone they will say "He was the best president that we ever had!"

"President" is a title, but so is "King" and "Prime minister" and all amount to head of state. Un may view himself as a savior to his followers, but so did Stalin and the Castro Family. China is a closed state too, and despite what people think, even they have elections. Humans have a tendency to support that which they are familiar with, even when it comes at the cost of others.

The downside to our species bad use of logic, is that most humans cannot see the long term picture. That no matter what labels we hide behind, no matter what social orders we justify with our heros, nobody escapes life alive. 

So what we are left with is a species merely amounts to a fight over resources. I think the sooner our species and the more in our species recognize this, the more cooperation we can foster and the less global conflict we will have.