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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 5, 2017 at 8:14 pm
All that Fatima proves is that people see weird things if they look at bright lights, and that a group of people seeing weird things can misinterpret them as a religious experience that just happens to align with the bullshit they already believe.
I see nothing miraculous or supernatural in the phenomenon -- just one more sad chapter in the history of human delusion.
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 5, 2017 at 8:46 pm
(August 5, 2017 at 6:28 pm)pabsta Wrote: (August 5, 2017 at 6:09 pm)Alex K Wrote: Where do you get these "facts" from?
The facts come from the newspaper articles published the following day, plus the published testimonials I mentioned. Plenty available.
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 5, 2017 at 8:54 pm
Quote:I'm curious what atheists think of this incident. Thanks
I think that anyone who believes that the Fatima incident qualifies as a 'miracle' is as potty as a hat full of pixies.
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 5, 2017 at 9:03 pm
And what's the big picture for believers if Fatima is somehow true?
It proves everything in the Bible, perhaps ??
Like it really is safe now to play with dangerous snakes and drink poison because this miracle is so convincing you have no ability to not believe now? Or even better, Fatima proves Jesus really and truly was crucified on Maundy Thursday and again on Good Friday, just like it says in the Bible ??
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 5, 2017 at 9:11 pm
(August 5, 2017 at 7:33 pm)chimp3 Wrote: In the years surrounding the claims of Fatima 1,000,000 Armenian Christians were slaughtered. Their prayers for mercy went unanswered. How fitting of the Catholic god to instead focus on amusing a few by making the sun jiggly in the sky. What does your god do for an encore? Bend coins on the pediatric oncology unit?
And how many prayers for mercy were offered up just a few miles north of this event in 1917?
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 5, 2017 at 9:39 pm
(This post was last modified: August 5, 2017 at 9:40 pm by Cyberman.)
How come nobody else noticed anything unusual? The sun nipping around the sky would be a bit dramatic, for at least the daylight side of the planet and a good portion of the twilight zone. And if it was anything more than a visual thing, the whole Solar System would have felt it. Stars aren't the kind of objects you can just kick about without breaking something, even if it's only the laws of physics. God or no god; you play in our universe, you play by the rules.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 5, 2017 at 9:43 pm
(August 5, 2017 at 9:39 pm)Cyberman Wrote: How come nobody else noticed anything unusual? The sun nipping around the sky would be a bit dramatic, for at least the daylight side of the planet and a good portion of the twilight zone. And if it was anything more than a visual thing, the whole Solar System would have felt it. Stars aren't the kind of objects you can just kick about without breaking something, even if it's only the laws of physics. God or no god; you play in our universe, you play by the rules.
I can hear it already, "but god is outside of time and space and has no rules, so there".
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 5, 2017 at 9:46 pm
That's great. It means it can have no influence on our universe and can be safely ignored as irrelevant.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
