Vaccination exemption in CA, personal down, medical up

[Abaddon_ire]

I really wish some of you would read CL's first post or two where she said she would definitely vaccinate her kids. What CL is doing is trying to explain that she sees BOTH sides of the discussion. And since there really isn't anyone else here to argue for these anti-vaxxers,  she's doing it in order to bring a well rounded discussion to the table. If everyone takes the same side of an issue,  it no longer remains an issue.

She is playing devil's advocate on this topic and the insults and accusations being tossed in her direction is just pathetic. She doesn't wish for anyone's kid to die and you people fucking know that.   Some of our more seasoned members here know what she went through last year and to accuse her of wanting to cause harm to other kids - well shame on you.

That is not the problem. CL may well vaccinate her kids. I have absolutely no reason to dispute that and I do not doubt that.

The problem is that CL is defending other christians who refuse to do so on the basis of religion. CL seems unaware that supporting such religiously inspired nonsense has real world impacts upon her own children.

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Well, I'm sorry. It came across as a dodge. The Schaibles murdered two of their children because of christianity. They are not an isolated case. While I would agree that CL is amenable, nothing in her response addressed the question asked. Why is that?

I honestly don't even know what you are talking about or why you brought religion into the argument. It's pretty bizarre considering I never said a word about religion on this thread. You brought it up to me randomly and I'm not sure what you were expecting to prove to me by doing so.

Because the Schaibles murdered their own children on the basis of religious belief. And you are telling me that there is nothing wrong with that.

[Aegon]

I'm immunosuppressed so I'd appreciate if y'all got the vaccines that I can't get. Makes things a little easier. Especially your snot nosed kids, they're gross enough as it is.

[brewer]

I'm immunosuppressed so I'd appreciate if y'all got the vaccines that I can't get. Makes things a little easier. Especially your snot nosed kids,  they're gross enough as it is.

Perfect example. Thanks Egg!

[Catholic_Lady]

I really wish some of you would read CL's first post or two where she said she would definitely vaccinate her kids. What CL is doing is trying to explain that she sees BOTH sides of the discussion. And since there really isn't anyone else here to argue for these anti-vaxxers,  she's doing it in order to bring a well rounded discussion to the table. If everyone takes the same side of an issue,  it no longer remains an issue.

She is playing devil's advocate on this topic and the insults and accusations being tossed in her direction is just pathetic. She doesn't wish for anyone's kid to die and you people fucking know that.   Some of our more seasoned members here know what she went through last year and to accuse her of wanting to cause harm to other kids - well shame on you.

That is not the problem. CL may well vaccinate her kids. I have absolutely no reason to dispute that and I do not doubt that.

The problem is that CL is defending other christians who refuse to do so on the basis of religion. CL seems unaware that supporting such religiously inspired nonsense has real world impacts upon her own children.

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I honestly don't even know what you are talking about or why you brought religion into the argument. It's pretty bizarre considering I never said a word about religion on this thread. You brought it up to me randomly and I'm not sure what you were expecting to prove to me by doing so.

Because the Schaibles murdered their own children on the basis of religious belief. And you are telling me that there is nothing wrong with that.

Again, what are you even talking about?? I told you no such thing.

And the vast majority of anti vaxxers are anti vax for perceived health reasons, not for Christian reasons lol. I've never heard of a single Christian who thought vaccines were a sin...

(Not saying they don't exist in the fringes, but I have never heard a single anti vax argument have anything to do with Christianity)

[Pat Mustard]

I'm not so sure that she's telling the truth when she says that. Her posts read as the anti vaxxer version of the "I'm not a racist, but..." racist line, which is not surprising that she's pretty much an Ionanist/Opus Dei type catholic.

LOL

You see cl, unlike the rest of the forum I've had lots of experience of people like you; soft spoken superficially reasonable people who when you dig a little deeper turn out to be professional liars working for the most rigid and dogmatic ends.

I call you an ionanist because there's a company over here, Lolek Ltd t/a The Iona Institute packed to the gills with antediluvian catholic worthies and the most consevative bishops (and most of their money likely comes from far right fundagelical sources, the murkiness of their funding is legendary), who have made a veritable industry out of the kind of stuff you spew out.

[Catholic_Lady]

LOL

You see cl, unlike the rest of the forum I've had lots of experience of people like you; soft spoken superficially reasonable people who when you dig a little deeper turn out to be professional liars working for the most rigid and dogmatic ends.

I call you an ionanist because there's a company over here, Lolek Ltd t/a The Iona Institute packed to the gills with antediluvian catholic worthies and the most consevative bishops (and most of their money likely comes from far right fundagelical sources, the murkiness of their funding is legendary), who have made a veritable industry out of the kind of stuff you spew out.

LOL