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Mass shooting in Las Vegas. 50+ dead
RE: Mass shooting in Las Vegas. 50+ dead
(October 2, 2017 at 7:47 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(October 2, 2017 at 7:38 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Read up on the Crusades.

That was one thousand years ago. And they were fighting over land.

You don't have to go back a thousand years. Ever heard of Bosnia and Herzegovina? No? Maybe the 90's was too long ago. How about the Central African Republic? Christians started slaughtering Muslims there in 2012 and haven't stopped yet.
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Why not?

*Throws confetti into the air to confuse everyone*
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(October 2, 2017 at 6:03 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(October 2, 2017 at 5:01 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: I noticed that the shooter's brother (and others) keep saying "no motive" in the same breath as "no religion".  Xtians will probably hear "no religion" as "not ISIS" but I, for one, am happy to hear it said.  Religion: a primary cause of terrorist activity and murder.  Christian, Muslim, or other.

I don't think Christianity is often a motive for mass shootings...

You've never heard of the "Army of God"?  
Aug 5, 2012  Wade Michael Page used a semi-automatic weapon to murder 6 people in a Sikh temple.  He was a christian white supremacist who thought Sikhs were Muslims.
May 31, 2009  Scott Roeder -Xtian right anti-abortion terrorist - murdered Dr. George Tiller.  Tiller was shot 5 times by Xtian right terrorist Shelly Shannon in 1993, but had survived that attack.  Ann Coulter made a joke about Tiller's murder, calling it "termination in the 3rd trimester".
July 27, 2008  Xtian Right Jim David Adkisson killed two and injured 7 by walking into a Unitarian church while they were rehearsing a children's play.  He hated liberals and thought that the Unitarians weren't real xtians.  
July 29, 1994  Paul Jennings Hill, a member of the Army of God, a known Xtian terrorist group, murdered Dr. John Britton and his bodygaurd, James Barrett.  He declared he was doing God's work and is now called a martyr by Army of God members.
July 27, 1996.  Eric Rudolph bombed a lesbian bar and an abortion clinic before carrying out the Olympic Park bombinb during the summer Olympics. That bomb killed one and wounded 111 people.  The Army of God also reveres him as a martyr.
October 23, 1998.  James Charles Kopp, radical xtian terrorist and another Army of God hero, murdered Dr. Barnett Slepian.  
1994, John C. Salvi murdered 2 Planned Parenthood receptionists and wounded several other individuals, calling them "infidels who got what they deserved".
November 2015, Robert Lewis Dear killed three at a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood.  He was an evangelistic xtian who admired the Army of God.  He was obsessed with the rapture.

-- And this is just scratching the surface.  It doesn't mention the current hate groups focused primarily on Muslims, like the Covenant, the Sword, or the Arm of the Lord.
The KKK is still going strong, tho' not as visible as they used to be.  Most of their members are xtian.  Most Aryan Nation and Skinhead groups are xtian.
Anyone who doesn't think that the xtian church hasn't been responsible for genocides in the past, pogroms, crusades, inquisitions, murder, and torture hasn't studied history.
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When I heard the news this morning, all I thought was "Here we go again". Nothing will change as far as gun control - the moneyed gun interests are too far up Congress's ass for anything to change now (thanks for nothing, Citizen United).

My boss told me that her friend was at the concert. According to my boss, her friend called in a state of panic about 10 minutes after the shooting started. She escaped unscathed into the Tropicana casino but witnessed victims lying on the ground. She texted my boss throughout the night until her battery died and she was able to fly back home this morning.

As horrible as this massacre is, it's folly to call it the "worst mass shooting in US history". Because you know what? There will undoubtedly be more shootings soon that surpass this one.

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Can we please just take everyone who loves their guns more than they love human beings, and put them off on an island somewhere. Like.. IDK. Then they can own all the guns they want. We'll even pay to send them there. they can build all the walls they want to keep out 'illegals' and whatnot.

Then the rest of us can actually live in a sensible country where we do something when there's a mass shooting,.
The whole tone of Church teaching in regard to woman is, to the last degree, contemptuous and degrading. - Elizabeth Cady Stanton
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(October 2, 2017 at 1:59 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: So . . .

would 5,000,000 people get together, hold their noses, and join the NRA now?

5,000,000 new recruits would be 50% of their membership and sufficient as a monolithic voting block to FUBAR the organization from the top down.


I'm thinking it's time.

Yeah, so only NRA members with 5 or more years of consecutive membership are allowed to vote. (I'm too lazy to pull up a link at the moment.) So that puts a crimp in anyone's plan to overtake the organization.

With all the dumbfuckery in our lax gun laws, these people need to ensure they are always 10 steps ahead.

-Teresa
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(October 2, 2017 at 8:57 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I can't imagine how someone could think, much less say such a thing.  That sort of callous attitude towards human lives is beyond disgusting.

Clearly, she's devolved. She's no human.
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(October 2, 2017 at 9:51 am)Little lunch Wrote: That's just horrible and terrifying.
Guns is only part of the problem, in my opinion.
Mental health checks and treatment should be free for all.
The head shrinkers would spend all of their time monitoring the thug cops and the politicians.
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(October 2, 2017 at 9:08 pm)Jello Wrote:
(October 2, 2017 at 7:59 pm)A Theist Wrote: And now the nutters come out....a brief message from the Left.



http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/201...icans.html

Why does it not surprise me that you of all people tried to make this political. 

A brief message from the left; We feel this pain too. Innocent people died, many of which come from all walks of life, and politics. We care. Any innocent life lost is a tragedy.

 People died, and you try to spin one woman's words on it to represent an entire section of people, because you, like many, try to use a tragedy to push your own agenda. It takes a lot to disgust me, but you, you really do. Although i bet you get off on the disgust of other people, it's the only logical explanation for shit like this.
Don't be such a hypocrite. This conversation had already devolved into a political discussion and Christian bashing session. The Crusades even somehow managed to make its way into the discussion, for whatever relevance that was. The zealot on the left that worked for CBS who made those comments regarding the people who were shot in Las Vegas is directly related to this event and is news worthy.
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RE: Mass shooting in Las Vegas. 50+ dead
(October 2, 2017 at 6:03 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(October 2, 2017 at 5:01 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: I noticed that the shooter's brother (and others) keep saying "no motive" in the same breath as "no religion".  Xtians will probably hear "no religion" as "not ISIS" but I, for one, am happy to hear it said.  Religion: a primary cause of terrorist activity and murder.  Christian, Muslim, or other.

I don't think Christianity is often a motive for mass shootings...

You'd think wrong. But that's no surprise for a person who lets a man who blames the devil's jealousy for natural disasters do her thinking for her.

(October 2, 2017 at 8:00 pm)Aegon Wrote:
(October 2, 2017 at 7:38 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Read up on the Crusades.

How in the world is that relevant

Because a proper understanding of the crusades sheds light on the very matter at hand, the christian mindset.

To use a more recent example, the biggest single contributing factor to the holocaust was christian theology. Remove the 1,500 years of anti-semitism from the pulpit and it wouldn't have happened.
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