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The Cake Case Revisited
October 3, 2017 at 6:09 pm
Quote:Sometimes a wedding cake is just delicious. And sometimes it is a First Amendment football.
In its new term, which began Monday (Oct. 2), the Supreme Court, will hear Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, a.k.a. “the cake case.” It stems from 2012, when two gay men visited a Lakewood, Colo., bakery in search of a wedding cake. The owner-baker, who is Christian, turned them away. The case has been in court ever since.
What argument will each side make? Will this be another landmark decision? And when is a cake not just a decadent dessert but an expression of deeply held religious beliefs?
http://religionnews.com/2017/10/03/the-s...eme-court/
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RE: The Cake Case Revisited
October 3, 2017 at 6:16 pm
People at my work refer to female jiggly bits as "cake", came here expecting that kind of cake.
Personally I think that if it's your business you should be able to do what you'd like with it, barring outright discrimination of course. I'm interested to see what happens.
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RE: The Cake Case Revisited
October 3, 2017 at 6:23 pm
I support the right of a black cake maker to refuse to bake a wedding cake for a skinhead couple that want a "pure" white cake with inscription: "White Wedding"!
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RE: The Cake Case Revisited
October 3, 2017 at 6:26 pm
(This post was last modified: October 3, 2017 at 6:28 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
I agree with Bob. I think we can all say that if we owned a cake bakery and someone walked in wanting a cake that said "White Power" with a swastika on it for a white supremacist Nazi gathering, we should be allowed to refuse to make it. Same goes for if someone wants to refuse to make a cake that says "Happy Wedding Day Ralph and Steve". A company owner should always be allowed to turn down a particular task (not people) if it goes against their moral, political, or religious convictions.
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RE: The Cake Case Revisited
October 3, 2017 at 6:57 pm
I thought this was another thread about cutting a cake so everyone gets a piece that is equally iced . . .
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RE: The Cake Case Revisited
October 3, 2017 at 7:07 pm
. . . and Losty not making enough for every one
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RE: The Cake Case Revisited
October 3, 2017 at 8:30 pm
You mean, this case is still being decided FIVE FUCKING YEARS after it originally made the news?
And seriously, I'm torn about the constitutionality of such a scenario; on the one hand, CL seems to have a point, but really, it seems like, in this political climate, it's just creating more battlegrounds in these culture wars that we do not need.
Remember Lester Maddox? He became infamous for refusing to serve black people, even chasing them away with axes. The restaurant wAs closed down, but two years later, he ran for governor of Georgia, based largely on his experiences chasing black people from his restaurant. He won the damn election.
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RE: The Cake Case Revisited
October 3, 2017 at 8:32 pm
Which might mean it's probably a good time to get out of 'Murica before it's too late.
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RE: The Cake Case Revisited
October 3, 2017 at 8:36 pm
In an ideal political climate, bigoted bakers should be allowed to do whatever they want and let their businesses fail because the invisible hand of the public rejects their bigoted bullshit.
Alas, we don't live in that ideal political climate. That invisible hand does not exist and all that results is we end up further Balkanized than we already are.
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RE: The Cake Case Revisited
October 3, 2017 at 8:46 pm
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(October 3, 2017 at 6:26 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I agree with Bob. I think we can all say that if we owned a cake bakery and someone walked in wanting a cake that said "White Power" with a swastika on it for a white supremacist Nazi gathering, we should be allowed to refuse to make it. Same goes for if someone wants to refuse to make a cake that says "Happy Wedding Day Ralph and Steve". A company owner should always be allowed to turn down a particular task (not people) if it goes against their moral, political, or religious convictions.
And if a black couple walked in and your precious holy bakery owner said "get out niggers," would you be okay with that too?
The state of Colorado has enacted anti-discrimination laws. Your hero baker wants to use his primitive religion to defeat those laws. I'd love to see the court smack him right in his fucking mouth.
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