I'm Sure He Had A Good Reason.

[The Grand Nudger]

You agree with yourself.  Rand Paul wants to minimize the programs that don't pay out to his specific backers and maximize the ones that do. Hell, he's not even against big government, he's against big federal government. He's a statist, like so many of his ilk are. He wants a big strong state government that can stand up to the nozy fed and say "Fuck you, we can too discriminate if we want to!"

You should know enough about american politics to realize that words can;t be expected to have any sensible meaning. They called a program to spy on us the "Patriot" act. Whenever they devise a way to gut the economy and make off with anything not nailed down, the bills inavriably called the "Job Creation Act of so and so".

It's high.....if a bit douchey...art for us. A true exercise in craft.

[vorlon13]

What do you have against Rand Paul? He's always been one of my favorite American politicians, definitely my favorite Republican.

Why, he couldn't run a lemon juice stall if you gave him the ownership of all the lemons in the world and a $1tn seed capital, he's that dumb.

What was his plan for being president, getting rid of government and letting the rich lord over the rest of us as their slaves? Yeah like that'd work, for about five minutes.

Well, don't be too down on that idea there.

It ain't that far from an apparently actual movement to establish an independent (from the US) California, and it would be set up as an apartheid state, essentially populated entirely by non-Caucasians as a permanent under-class, and they would be governed entirely by Silicon Valley entrepreneurs/billionaires, and the Hollywood elite.

I know it sounds a little outré, but the proposal is garnering some support and not inducing rioting in the 'target' populations, so it appears kinda sorta viable to a degree. (I should probably have put in the word 'astonishingly' in there, but I'm too tired to go back now)

It would be an interesting socio-politico engineering experiment, but I'd like to think the (to me at least) odious nature of most apartheid states would hopefully nix the proposal in the bud.

[shadow]

You agree with yourself.  Rand Paul wants to minimize the programs that don't pay out to his specific backers and maximize the ones that do.  Hell, he's not even against big government, he's against big federal government.  He's a statist, like so many of his ilk are.  He wants a big strong state government that can stand up to the nozy fed and say "Fuck you, we can too discriminate if we want to!"  

You should know enough about american politics to realize that words can;t be expected to have any  sensible meaning.  They called a program to spy on us the "Patriot" act.  Whenever they devise a way to gut the economy and make off with anything not nailed down, the bills inavriably called the "Job Creation Act of so and so".

It's high.....if a bit douchey...art for us.  A true exercise in craft.

We have that too! Our ex-PM Stephen Harper was basically the god of naming awful programs things like The Protection of Innocent Babies act. We actually had an 'Office of Religious Freedoms', which was basically a Chrisitian rights branch of the government as I understood it.

But, I mean, you've still got to vote for someone, right? I really do agree with myself, but politics is all about creating dichotomies under which we must slot ourselves.

[The Grand Nudger]

We have that too! Our ex-PM Stephen Harper was basically the god of naming awful programs things like The Protection of Innocent Babies act. We actually had an 'Office of Religious Freedoms', which was basically a Chrisitian rights branch of the government as I understood it.

But, I mean, you've still got to vote for someone, right? I really do agree with myself, but politics is all about creating dichotomies under which we must slot ourselves.

...ah, but that's where you're wrong.  If I was going to vote for someone, it would be a vote for someone..and not Rand Paul. I would literally write in "someone" before I voted for Rand Paul. You see...I actually have to live here.

"Religious Freedom" bills here generally mean the freedom for people to discriminate on religious grounds., or not give whores their slut pills in the employee "health" plan they pay for.


@Vor

Didn't we establish the last time you were talking about California that this is a thing Tucker Carlson made up and also that you should stop watching Tucker Carlson?

[shadow]

We have that too! Our ex-PM Stephen Harper was basically the god of naming awful programs things like The Protection of Innocent Babies act. We actually had an 'Office of Religious Freedoms', which was basically a Chrisitian rights branch of the government as I understood it.

But, I mean, you've still got to vote for someone, right? I really do agree with myself, but politics is all about creating dichotomies under which we must slot ourselves.

...ah, but that's where you're wrong.  If I was going to vote for someone, it would be a vote for someone..and not Rand Paul.  I would literally write in "someone" before I voted for Rand Paul.  You see...I actually have to live here.

Well, if that's your view. I simply don't agree that Rand Paul is a spectacularly bad politician: I have no doubt he's a politician, but suggesting that a politician is bought by corporations or something - well no shit. That's just how democracy works, and non-corrupt politicians who actually share your views  are pretty much a fantasy.

And don't get the impression that Canadians don't get 100x too much American politics shoved down our throats - if I have to listen to every piece of crap trump tweets, I think I have the right to weigh in on your politicians

[The Grand Nudger]

Are you really telling me that you...as an antitheist living in a secular state, find a dominionist candidate acceptable?  That you would trade that for the non existent libertarian views that he doesn't hold?  Rand Paul is essentially a -model- for the brand of spectacularly bad politicians that have recently become so popular over here. You know, you don't have to get into bed with an eel to get fiscal responsibility and small government in the US. I know it probably seems like that because the eels just keep wining, but it isn;t on account of them delivering small government or fiscal responsibility.

In our case, it's due to bitching about banks, spending millions of taxpayers dollars on bible based theme parks, shutting down slut clinics, and keeping guns in everyone's cold dead hands. Oh, and a little bit of gerrymandering here and there, ofc. Kentuckians don;t give a fuck about libertarianism or pacifist/isolationist stances. We -looooove- a good war, and the troops....except not in the way that we support them after service and keep them from falling into the pitfall of heroine addiction engineered by those who want gay marriage to be illegal but unregulated pain clinics to proliferate in an area wrecked by the loss of coal jobs and the rise of predatory manufacturing.

You know, it;s funny because we were moving towards a slw of successful progressive policies (even our R's were onboard) showing the nation how to do this that or the other thing, reducing our uninsured rate to 8%, being the first state to adopt common core and making gains in education..that sort of hippy liberal shit. Hell, we even got Toyota to open an HQ here and made local food the norm in grocery stores rather than the exception. Even our walmarts go apeshit over kentucky proud. Started some vineyards, and you know we got all those horses. It's not often you hear of kentucky being a model for anything other than cousin-fucking and moonshine......I guess we were just tired of all that winning?

You know what though, the mans a friend of pot, and we'd really like to grow some fucking pot....but, you know, legally, soi we don;t have to hide from the law out here in our hollars. Honestly that;s the only good thing I can say about Rand Paul..because as long as Rand Paul and people like Rand Paul are "representing" me...Imma need a goddamned joint.

This...though...

non-corrupt politicians who actually share your views are pretty much a fantasy.

Nah, it's just that they don't win. I cast my vote when I find them, and I may as well burn the ballot for all the good it does, lol. Hell, I've toyed with the idea of taking matters into my own hands and running for a county seat.....and playing the sort of genteel bigot you have to play around here just long enough to get into office..then catfishing the shit outta Yall Qaeda. Step one, this silly fucking sunday blue laws. Why can;t I get a drink on sunday...in bourbon county? Eat a dick you puritan bastards, shit, you'd probably like it.

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Update.  Paul's neighbor got out on $7,500 bail..for assaulting a senator, a felony.

10 bucks says Rand was fucking his wife.

[Minimalist]

No, Paul is too busy fucking the country.  I wish it had been something like Paul's voting record but............

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics...-1.3615517

Assault on Sen. Rand Paul by neighbor blamed on dispute over yard care

It was a fight over turf, not politics.
Sen. Rand Paul was attacked by his longtime neighbor “over some sort of planting or flora issue around the properties,” according to a tweet from a New York Times reporter.
Paul, 54, had five ribs broken when his neighbor, Rene Boucher, 59, tackled him from behind at the politician’s Kentucky home on Saturday, authorities said.
The two have been fighting “over yard waste and leaves blown on each other’s lawns for years,” a neighbor told CNN.

Infuckingcredible.  Paul probably throws dog shit on his neighbors' yard.  He looks like the type.

[The Grand Nudger]

"Yard Care" is code for screwing the others guys wife under the cabana umbrella.  Gated Community Euphemisms 101. You can;t complain to polite company that you;'re being cucked, so you bitch about the neighbors grass (when it's your wife's "turf" that's chiefly concerning you).


Cmon Min.

I'd be tempted to break his ribs for being close enough to my yard to reach his ribs. I'm a principle kind of guy. If it takes you less than 30 seconds to drag a body onto your lawn the fucker is trespassing. 7.5k bail for assaulting a senator definitely means there;s a story neither man is interested in telling. They'd have shot my ass for less, and I'm white too!

[Minimalist]

I've become a literalist.  Hanging out with too many jesus freaks for too long.

[Fireball]

Kind of off-topic, but was mentioned, so I'll just have to say...

As much as I like the idea of a country called California, the chances of that are nil. The state is 6th or 7th in the world economy, if it were its own country. The US ain't turning loose of that cash cow for anybody. And all the defense work? It's like 1 job in 5 or 7. Why would the US buy airplanes, satellites, missiles, etc., from a foreign country? Ain't happening.