Too many near death experiences

[Simon Moon]

Time.  And watching the lying fucks try to shove their fucking bullshit agenda up every ones assholes every chance they get.

That's enough, isn't it?

Why do you tolerate liars?

I can't say aliens don't exist to UFO fans. Same thing with God fans. They wish to buy a ticket to heaven(peaceful and relatively sane believers) - that's their business.

Sorry, but people's beliefs do not live in a vacuum. They inform their actions. And, as I posted above (post #29), many of those actions have real world, negative consequences.

The thing with alien believers is, they don't have any political power. So their unsupported beliefs have almost zero effect on society (except for some cool movies).

If alien believers started to misbehave, based on their alien beliefs, as badly as theists do, then we'd be speaking out against them also.

[Cod]

I can't say aliens don't exist to UFO fans. Same thing with God fans. They wish to buy a ticket to heaven(peaceful and relatively sane believers) - that's their business.

Yes it is their business, as long as they don't poison the minds of children. They know they have to do this though because people left alone until adulthood would never buy into the shit.

[Minimalist]

Time.  And watching the lying fucks try to shove their fucking bullshit agenda up every ones assholes every chance they get.

That's enough, isn't it?

Why do you tolerate liars?

I can't say aliens don't exist to UFO fans. Same thing with God fans. They wish to buy a ticket to heaven(peaceful and relatively sane believers) - that's their business.

Bullshit.  I've yet to have a UFO fan come up to me an insist I support legislation to keep aliens from using a particular bathroom.  If all that jesus freak fucks did was believe in stupid fairy tales  that would be fine.... they can fool themselves all they want.  But they keep trying to shove their churchie bullshit into our laws and classrooms and that cannot be tolerated.

[Succubus]

Of course - because religitards are full of shit.

Min, just curious, how religion managed to make you so extremely triggered? What was the worst part you can share?

Genesis 1

1:1 In the beginning...

Not a bad start to a novel; concise, eye catching and intriguing. Unfortunately, the rest of the thing is a contender for a Lytton Bulwer prize.

[purplepurpose]

Min, just curious, how religion managed to make you so extremely triggered? What was the worst part you can share?

Have you had a chance to look around the world?

African Christians burning children alive for being witches, Muslims blowing themselves up in public places, creationists trying to get their pseudoscience taught in public school science courses, politicians not accepting climate change because their ancient text claims that god will not destroy the world in a flood again, homosexuals persecuted (and thrown off buildings in some countries), wars started, planes flown into buildings at several hundred miles an hour, children in the US prevented by their parents from getting medical help, etc, etc, all for one ridiculous, unsupported religious belief or another.

If you are not angry at any of the above, then you just aren't paying attention.

You seriously hate faith as of whole? Wish to put a leash on religion? That's noble. I don't see a reason for such grand things.

[Simon Moon]

Have you had a chance to look around the world?

African Christians burning children alive for being witches, Muslims blowing themselves up in public places, creationists trying to get their pseudoscience taught in public school science courses, politicians not accepting climate change because their ancient text claims that god will not destroy the world in a flood again, homosexuals persecuted (and thrown off buildings in some countries), wars started, planes flown into buildings at several hundred miles an hour, children in the US prevented by their parents from getting medical help, etc, etc, all for one ridiculous, unsupported religious belief or another.

If you are not angry at any of the above, then you just aren't paying attention.

You seriously hate faith as of whole? Wish to put a leash on religion?

Faith is not a virtue, it is indistinguishable from gullibility.

It as an excuse people use to describe a belief they have, when they have no good reason to believe it is true.

Faith is not a reliable path to truth, when it can lead 1.5 billion Muslims, 1.1 billion Hindus, 2 billion Christians, all to different, mutually exclusive, beliefs.

Please explain why you think faith is a good thing?

Of course I don't want to put a leash on religion. I want it to disappear based on the fact that it is not supported by evidence, logic and reasoned argument.

And it has not gone unnoticed that you did not respond to any of the real world negative consequences I listed in the post you are responding to.

[Minimalist]

Have you had a chance to look around the world?

African Christians burning children alive for being witches, Muslims blowing themselves up in public places, creationists trying to get their pseudoscience taught in public school science courses, politicians not accepting climate change because their ancient text claims that god will not destroy the world in a flood again, homosexuals persecuted (and thrown off buildings in some countries), wars started, planes flown into buildings at several hundred miles an hour, children in the US prevented by their parents from getting medical help, etc, etc, all for one ridiculous, unsupported religious belief or another.

If you are not angry at any of the above, then you just aren't paying attention.

You seriously hate faith as of whole? Wish to put a leash on religion? That's noble. I don't see a reason for such grand things.

Then we disagree.

BTW,

[Harry Nevis]

Time.  And watching the lying fucks try to shove their fucking bullshit agenda up every ones assholes every chance they get.

That's enough, isn't it?

Why do you tolerate liars?

I can't say aliens don't exist to UFO fans. Same thing with God fans. They wish to buy a ticket to heaven(peaceful and relatively sane believers) - that's their business.

If they keep it their business.  But they don't.

[Simon Moon]

Have you had a chance to look around the world?

African Christians burning children alive for being witches, Muslims blowing themselves up in public places, creationists trying to get their pseudoscience taught in public school science courses, politicians not accepting climate change because their ancient text claims that god will not destroy the world in a flood again, homosexuals persecuted (and thrown off buildings in some countries), wars started, planes flown into buildings at several hundred miles an hour, children in the US prevented by their parents from getting medical help, etc, etc, all for one ridiculous, unsupported religious belief or another.

If you are not angry at any of the above, then you just aren't paying attention.

You seriously hate faith as of whole? Wish to put a leash on religion? That's noble. I don't see a reason for such grand things.

Please reread the list I posted that you are responding to.

Why aren't YOU angry at that list of faith based behaviors of theists?

[purplepurpose]

You seriously hate faith as of whole? Wish to put a leash on religion?

Faith is not a virtue, it is indistinguishable from gullibility.

It as an excuse people use to describe a belief they have, when they have no good reason to believe it is true.

Faith is not a reliable path to truth, when it can lead 1.5 billion Muslims, 1.1 billion Hindus, 2 billion Christians, all to different, mutually exclusive, beliefs.

Please explain why you think faith is a good thing?

Of course I don't want to put a leash on religion. I want it to disappear based on the fact that it is not supported by evidence, logic and reasoned argument.

And it has not gone unnoticed that you did not respond to any of the real world negative consequences I listed in the post you are responding to.

Suicide, drugs and crime are popular. Believers preaching order trough fear isn't the worst stuff.