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RE: Eternal afterlife
December 23, 2017 at 2:44 pm
(November 22, 2017 at 2:16 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: (November 22, 2017 at 1:00 pm)Cod Wrote: No possibility of sinning, what's the point of that then? I've lived quite happily without Gods influence up to now, I can cope with being separate from him as long as I'm not on fire.
Everything's better when you're not on fire. No fire is correct. Before physical death, everyone chooses whether they want separation or connection for their eternal abode. Angels and humans have an additional component over and above other living creatures, the made in the image-of-God 'Spirit' which gives eternal existence and free-will. God places a high value on freedom. He rather have free-will and evil, then no free-will and no evil. Any torment felt by eternal separation is therefore self-imposed. God doesn't have unlimited power since his nature controls his actions; therefore God cannot torment. All contrived supposedly clever question about what God can and cannot do are related to his nature restrictions. This what is meant when God was describing himself to Moses from the unconsuming burning bush: "I AM WHO I AM".
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RE: Eternal afterlife
December 23, 2017 at 5:09 pm
(December 23, 2017 at 2:44 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (November 22, 2017 at 2:16 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Everything's better when you're not on fire. No fire is correct. Before physical death, everyone chooses whether they want separation or connection for their eternal abode. Angels and humans have an additional component over and above other living creatures, the made in the image-of-God 'Spirit' which gives eternal existence and free-will. God places a high value on freedom. He rather have free-will and evil, then no free-will and no evil. Any torment felt by eternal separation is therefore self-imposed. God doesn't have unlimited power since his nature controls his actions; therefore God cannot torment. All contrived supposedly clever question about what God can and cannot do are related to his nature restrictions. This what is meant when God was describing himself to Moses from the unconsuming burning bush: "I AM WHO I AM". Your opinion is not supported by the biblical fairy tale. When the people wanted freedom of religion Moses and Yahweh went nuts and slaughtered them. Living by their rules is akin to living in hell on earth.
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RE: Eternal afterlife
January 1, 2018 at 12:51 pm
(This post was last modified: January 1, 2018 at 12:53 pm by Nay_Sayer.)
(December 23, 2017 at 2:44 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (November 22, 2017 at 2:16 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Everything's better when you're not on fire. No fire is correct. Before physical death, everyone chooses whether they want separation or connection for their eternal abode. Angels and humans have an additional component over and above other living creatures, the made in the image-of-God 'Spirit' which gives eternal existence and free-will. God places a high value on freedom. He rather have free-will and evil, then no free-will and no evil. Any torment felt by eternal separation is therefore self-imposed. God doesn't have unlimited power since his nature controls his actions; therefore God cannot torment. All contrived supposedly clever question about what God can and cannot do are related to his nature restrictions. This what is meant when God was describing himself to Moses from the unconsuming burning bush: "I AM WHO I AM".
No boiling is correct. Before physical death, everyone chooses whether they want separation or connection for their eternal Buffett. Angels (Real word Anelloni) and humans have an additional component over and above other living creatures, the made in the image-of-FSM 'Spirit' which gives eternal existence and free-will. FSM places a high value on freedom. FSM loves free will but has to battle evil endlessly in biblical laser tag fights. FSM is super sorry about the torment felt in the great boiling but as long as your not a dick your safe. FSM has unlimited power, but has one weakness that spawned into existence as he did before the beginning, The Anti-Pasta; Therefore FSM cannot torment, Rather it is the Anti-Pasta who has domain over suffering. This what is meant when FSM was describing himself to Boyardee from the unconsuming burning bowl: "I AM WHO I AM".
I wanted to give you the correct version of events. RAmen
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RE: Eternal afterlife
January 1, 2018 at 12:53 pm
(January 1, 2018 at 12:51 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:
(December 23, 2017 at 2:44 pm)snowtracks Wrote: No fire is correct. Before physical death, everyone chooses whether they want separation or connection for their eternal abode. Angels and humans have an additional component over and above other living creatures, the made in the image-of-God 'Spirit' which gives eternal existence and free-will. God places a high value on freedom. He rather have free-will and evil, then no free-will and no evil. Any torment felt by eternal separation is therefore self-imposed. God doesn't have unlimited power since his nature controls his actions; therefore God cannot torment. All contrived supposedly clever question about what God can and cannot do are related to his nature restrictions. This what is meant when God was describing himself to Moses from the unconsuming burning bush: "I AM WHO I AM".
No boiling is correct. Before physical death, everyone chooses whether they want separation or connection for their eternal Buffett. Angels (Real word Anelloni) and humans have an additional component over and above other living creatures, the made in the image-of-FSM 'Spirit' which gives eternal existence and free-will. FSM places a high value on freedom. FSM loves free will but has to battle evil endlessly in biblical laser tag fights. FSM is super sorry about the torment felt in the great boiling but as long as your not a dick your safe. FSM has unlimited power, but has one weakness that spawned into existence as he did before the beginning, The Anti-Pasta; Therefore FSM cannot torment, Rather it is the Anti-Pasta who has domain over suffering. This what is meant when FSM was describing himself to Boyardee from the unconsuming burning bowl: "I AM WHO I AM".
I wanted to give you the correct version of events. RAmen
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RE: Eternal afterlife
January 1, 2018 at 12:57 pm
(December 23, 2017 at 2:44 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (November 22, 2017 at 2:16 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Everything's better when you're not on fire. No fire is correct. Before physical death, everyone chooses whether they want separation or connection for their eternal abode. Angels and humans have an additional component over and above other living creatures, the made in the image-of-God 'Spirit' which gives eternal existence and free-will. God places a high value on freedom. He rather have free-will and evil, then no free-will and no evil. Any torment felt by eternal separation is therefore self-imposed. God doesn't have unlimited power since his nature controls his actions; therefore God cannot torment. All contrived supposedly clever question about what God can and cannot do are related to his nature restrictions. This what is meant when God was describing himself to Moses from the unconsuming burning bush: "I AM WHO I AM".
Wrong! That (my bold) was Popeye's saying.
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RE: Eternal afterlife
January 1, 2018 at 3:34 pm
(November 25, 2017 at 4:27 pm)Cod Wrote: (November 25, 2017 at 1:39 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Before asking or making such a statement you need to know what we have to do to receive those things. Your question as asked is unanswerable and is not preached by knowledgeable preachers.
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Well tell us then. Can I murder someone, then repent and accept Jesus for the prize? Tell us.
Yes, if it is true repentance. You knew that already.
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RE: Eternal afterlife
January 1, 2018 at 3:49 pm
(January 1, 2018 at 12:57 pm)Whateverist Wrote: (December 23, 2017 at 2:44 pm)snowtracks Wrote: No fire is correct. Before physical death, everyone chooses whether they want separation or connection for their eternal abode. Angels and humans have an additional component over and above other living creatures, the made in the image-of-God 'Spirit' which gives eternal existence and free-will. God places a high value on freedom. He rather have free-will and evil, then no free-will and no evil. Any torment felt by eternal separation is therefore self-imposed. God doesn't have unlimited power since his nature controls his actions; therefore God cannot torment. All contrived supposedly clever question about what God can and cannot do are related to his nature restrictions. This what is meant when God was describing himself to Moses from the unconsuming burning bush: "I AM WHO I AM".
Wrong! That (my bold) was Popeye's saying.
Actually, it's "I yam what I yam".
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RE: Eternal afterlife
January 5, 2018 at 10:03 am
(January 1, 2018 at 3:34 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (November 25, 2017 at 4:27 pm)Cod Wrote: Well tell us then. Can I murder someone, then repent and accept Jesus for the prize? Tell us.
Yes, if it is true repentance. You knew that already.
"Nothing can be more egotistical than true repentance." https://twitter.com/A_Watts_Quotes/statu...2510606337
What can you make of that?
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RE: Eternal hell and heaven
January 5, 2018 at 10:06 am
(November 21, 2017 at 4:05 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: (November 21, 2017 at 3:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Maybe because they read it in some stupid old book?
This crazy belief is better than heavy drugs and depression at least.
Which drugs, exactly?
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RE: Eternal afterlife
January 5, 2018 at 10:07 am
(January 1, 2018 at 3:34 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (November 25, 2017 at 4:27 pm)Cod Wrote: Well tell us then. Can I murder someone, then repent and accept Jesus for the prize? Tell us.
Yes, if it is true repentance. You knew that already.
There are too many who think repentance is just confession or saying/feeling sorry as well.
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