Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions

[Mermaid]

No worries at all!

[Amarok]

There is no such thing as pro abortionist . It's pro choice for women . Whether to carry to term or not .

[Catholic_Lady]

I remember a while back some politician called Children born from rape a 'blessing from God.'

What's funny (or maybe sad), is that there are people who were conceived from rape, and they got to witness the debate. And what they saw, was more than half the country outraged at the idea someone would say their existence was 'a blessing.' That had to be good for their morale. But I don't think anyone even considered how that debate would make that group of people feel.

There are some similar implications for folks with Down Syndrome. If we're aborting people because of DS, it seems like that makes them 2nd class citizens. Certainly less valuable than healthy people. "We aborted our baby, solely because it was going to be like you." is a tough message to send to folks with Down Syndrome, or any group with disabilities. It certainly makes selling them on the idea they are 'equal' a stretch.

And the slippery slope implications moving forward are going to cross a lot of people's lines, and it's going to be tough to make an argument against them once you start down the path.

^^^

[AFTT47]

I believe all human beings have the right to be born and no one has the right to arbitrarily take the life of another human being.

Odd that these pro abortionists will support the horrific abortion procedure of dismembering a child in the womb but demand mercy for the most cold blooded of murderers on death row. Even death row killers face a more merciful end than the unborn facing abortion...

Get it through your fucking head: Without a higher brain, there is no child, no person. There is a clump of cells with all the awareness of a brick.

Don't you know God hates liars? Stop being one if you wan't to get into heaven.

[Amarok]

Nope not the same . What some advocating for the right to abort SD would say is . 

1. Abortion is not going anywhere . It does not matter what laws you pass . All your doing is pushing woman and the very SD fetuses your trying to protect into unsafe abortions . 

2. That pro lifers are will to do to you what would be considered cruel and heartless if we did it to a dog or a horse . But your agony and lack of dignity and quality of life is worth us not having to feel bad about it . So who is really saying their valueless .

[Joods]

When he can carry it inside him . He gets a say .

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Abortion is taking responsibility

If she could make it without sperm than he has no say.
So if I impregnate 5 woman just so that i could feel the full pleasure and make them have an abortion than I'm taking responsability

bold mine.

You can't force a woman to have an abortion, if she doesn't want to. You don't want kids? Either get a vasectomy, use protection or keep your fucking zipper up. Your attempts at making a woman have an abortion makes you an asshole and nothing else. The fact that you think this way makes you a misogynist and a piece of shit.

[Ravenshire]

I believe all human beings have the right to be born and no one has the right to arbitrarily take the life of another human being.

Arbitrarily? Are you sure?

It's part of the tripe the birthers like to spew. Typically along with trivializing what must be a truly horrific decision to have to make and/or implying that no thought goes into the abortion or that no other forms of conception were used.

[Joods]

I remember a while back some politician called Children born from rape a 'blessing from God.'

What's funny (or maybe sad), is that there are people who were conceived from rape, and they got to witness the debate.  And what they saw, was more than half the country outraged at the idea someone would say their existence was 'a blessing.'  That had to be good for their morale.  But I don't think anyone even considered how that debate would make that group of people feel.

There are some similar implications for folks with Down Syndrome.  If we're aborting people because of DS, it seems like that makes them 2nd class citizens.  Certainly less valuable than healthy people.  "We aborted our baby, solely because it was going to be like you." is a tough message to send to folks with Down Syndrome, or any group with disabilities.  It certainly makes selling them on the idea they are 'equal' a stretch.  

And the slippery slope implications moving forward are going to cross a lot of people's lines, and it's going to be tough to make an argument against them once you start down the path.

Agreed and they are already stereotyped to begin with. The deck is already stacked against them from the moment they are born. So many people think that kids with DS will never amount to anything, yet there are stories in the paper all the time of accomplishments and achievements. They are just as important as anyone else and to think differently is just foolish. 

I well remember the nurse coming into my room the day after my kid was born, asking me "Does the father of your child know he has a retarded child?" 

I told her to get the fuck out of my room and then once I was able to call hospital administration and get her and six other people fired. You don't ever tell a new parent that. Ever.

[Mermaid]

I well remember the nurse coming into my room the day after my kid was born, asking me "Does the father of your child know he has a retarded child?" 

I told her to get the fuck out of my room and then once I was able to call hospital administration and get her and six other people fired. You don't ever tell a new parent that. Ever.

That is absolutely horrific on a few levels.

[Joods]

I well remember the nurse coming into my room the day after my kid was born, asking me "Does the father of your child know he has a retarded child?" 

I told her to get the fuck out of my room and then once I was able to call hospital administration and get her and six other people fired. You don't ever tell a new parent that. Ever.

That is absolutely horrific on a few levels.

It is something that I have had to live with for the last 22 years. And yes, it was horrific. That woman has forever scarred my first real moments with my daughter.