God does not determine right and wrong

[shadow]

So...ordering babies murdered in retaliation is okay then?  You’re right.  Our depraved, barbaric society really should be turning to the Bible for moral salvation.  😏

So keeping the babies and killing their evil parents, leaving the children to grow up and face the nation which killed their parents, will ensure that they will grow up balanced, and somehow the laws of inheritance, which would cause those adopted to follow in the same Satanic path as their parents, will vanish?

Or perhaps we should just keep the whole criminal nation alive, to repeat the most horrific crimes on earth, as well as butcher THEMSELVES and their own children out of existence, as other nations had already done?

Their own children were destined to be sacrificed, or to grow up exactly as the parents. Not just that, but their offspring would be tortured and killed through their pagan rituals. Their offspring were selected and trained even during gestation to serve and honor Satan, to commit the worst sins known to mankind, if murdering innocent strangers is not enough to tip the scales of justice?

The same hardening of hearts, the desensitizing to moral law is taking place in your own nation on a large scale - calling evil good and good evil, having no discernment, being judgmental and blasphemous.

Killing babies is never morally acceptable.

I never thought I would have to state that as an opinion. The fact that you disagree is reprehensible, and I think you are a horrible person for trying to come up with some sick justification for why murdering babies due to their lineage is okay. Your bible is twisted, and the closer you come to following it, the more evil you become.

[Catholic_Lady]

Yeah, killing babies is never morally acceptable....

[shadow]

Yeah, killing babies is never morally acceptable....

Like, the only time I would condone killing babies is if we were have a barbecue. That's the only time. And I would make sure to eat all of the meat - I can't stand baby killing for sport.

[vorlon13]

I'd advise caution in rebuking God over His conduct. I'd suspect He does not take criticism well.


The people of Samaria must bear their guilt,
because they have rebelled against their God.
They will fall by the sword;
their little ones will be dashed to the ground,
their pregnant women ripped open.


Better to lie low than attract His attention and suffer dire consequences.

[Whateverist]

I the lord thy god will mess you up. - Leviticus 29.142A

[Chad32]

I'd advise caution in rebuking God over His conduct.  I'd suspect He does not take criticism well.


The people of Samaria must bear their guilt,
   because they have rebelled against their God.
They will fall by the sword;
   their little ones will be dashed to the ground,
   their pregnant women ripped open.


Better to lie low than attract His attention and suffer dire consequences.

What's the point of paying lip service to a god who supposedly knows our thoughts and actions? He knows what we're thinking, so we might as well say it. He doesn't seem to differentiate thoughts and actions anyway.

[The Industrial Atheist]

Why should an all powerful God who is loving, get a kick out of making you a robot?

You are entitled to make whatever judgments about God.
But how would you like me misrepresent you without further knowledge of who you are?
Let's say someone is considered to be a criminal in prison, a corrupt court could have placed them there with all the evidence against them, and no one, not even their own family believes they are innocent.

Innocent until proven guilty applies to God.

He's not loving. Hence why he wants you to obey every word he says, and claims you're worthy of being completely abandoned or set on fire for eternity when you don't.

All the information we have about this god comes from the bible. Everything else has to be taken on faith. So there isn't really further knowledge we can take. If it paints him in a bad way, then he has failed. He even admits his plan isn't going to work very well when he says the road to hell is broad, and the road to heaven is narrow, instead of being the other way around.

Why should it apply to god, when he doesn't apply it to us? Humans go to hell by default. We're expected to seek him out, and get "saved" from the punishment he intends for us if we don't. Innocent until proven guilty is our idea, because we've grown past this bible god.

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It's not like Yaweh is an expert on everything, including psychology, or anything.

He can count the hairs on your head, but seems to think you're capable of controlling your thoughts when it's proven you can't. Thou shalt not covet is meaningless.

Thought crimes are a lot of what keeps it going. Even if you can obey all the rules concerning actions, eek you had impure thought! Now you have to come crawling to god for forgiveness, how wretched is someone who for nay time even 45 seconds wants what someone else has or or for a brief time has sexual thoughts about someone they aren't married to.

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It's not like Yaweh is an expert on everything, including psychology, or anything.

Yeah, he's not real good with iron either, despite creating literally mega-mega-mega tons of the stuff when he invoked all of creation.  His skill set has clearly declined.

He should have spoken the AICD (Anti Iron Chariot Device) into existence.

[vorlon13]

I'd advise caution in rebuking God over His conduct.  I'd suspect He does not take criticism well.


The people of Samaria must bear their guilt,
   because they have rebelled against their God.
They will fall by the sword;
   their little ones will be dashed to the ground,
   their pregnant women ripped open.


Better to lie low than attract His attention and suffer dire consequences.

What's the point of paying lip service to a god who supposedly knows our thoughts and actions? He knows what we're thinking, so we might as well say it. He doesn't seem to differentiate thoughts and actions anyway.

I'd suspect for a believer reading of his God's wrathful consequences, some self-policing of their own thoughts might be possible, facilitated by their piety and acceptance/desire of their eventual Salvation.  Having a pastor demonstrate some Biblical injunctions and their consequences on slackers in their congregation from time to time would be effective too.

[Chad32]

You can't keep every little thought from popping into your head, though. All we can do is not act on negative thoughts, which is all anyone should expect of people. But Yahweh doesn't seem to care. You thought it, you may as well have done it.

[possibletarian]

I think what gets me the most, is that god does not do his own killing normally. Almost as if... no dare i say it, he does not exist !!