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Rebellion against god
#51
RE: Rebellion against god
(February 16, 2018 at 10:59 pm)Banned Wrote: To what extent should they be able to defend themselves against these monsters?
A look can kill or just a nasty sting?
Or perhaps camouflage?

Sufficient physical armour and power to neutralize the attack.  Perhaps a force field that reflects all of the attack back on the attacker.
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#52
RE: Rebellion against god
(February 16, 2018 at 10:41 pm)ohreally Wrote: Is this a response meant for adults or 7 year old kids?   I can't believe you think this is compelling in any way.

It always has to be faith because there is no god, it relies upon people.  You have to make all of this stuff up in your head because there is nothing to come down and show itself.

So what is it you want to see?

(February 16, 2018 at 11:09 pm)Astreja Wrote: Sufficient physical armour and power to neutralize the attack.  Perhaps a force field that reflects all of the attack back on the attacker.

Does the victim (no longer a victim thanks to an equalizing force field) have control over this, or is it automatic, like an animal's response?
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#53
RE: Rebellion against god
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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#54
RE: Rebellion against god
Yeah, that's one of the thing that gets me about Christianity.

"God doesn't reveal himself because he values free will, and doesn't want to impede it." Bwuh? How does revealing himself eliminate free will? There's ample proof that our planet is round, yet many people still believe it's flat. I fail to see why credible evidence for a god, any god, would magically eliminate free will, or why ancient myths and preachers are required at all.
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#55
RE: Rebellion against god
(February 16, 2018 at 11:44 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: And after all of that, you're yammering on about your imaginary friend again.  He doesn't exist, and he has never existed.  Any being that (purportedly) created the entire universe, billions upon billions of galaxies, unfathomable distances, can find a reasonable way to provide an infinitesimal group of primates with proof of its existence that doesn't involve books of fantasies or lying con men.  Particularly con men who insist upon blind obedience and "trust" and "faith" because they need control over groups of people, because they know they have no proof of ANY of the ignorant vomit that they are spewing. Your universe-creator can speak for itself, in a way that is clear and obvious to all.  When it does, it will be worthy of some attention.  Until then piss off.

So if God puts on a little science show for us, how will the deaf, or the blind, or the severely disabled get their proof?
I guess the disabled will just have to miss out.

But if the proof comes from faith within that God has given as free gift, then all can know the truth.
Such a gift ensures that the ones who think they are better than God will not enter eternal life.
Why would anyone with sense allow the new world to be populated by total creeps?
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#56
RE: Rebellion against god
(February 17, 2018 at 12:12 am)Banned Wrote:
(February 16, 2018 at 11:44 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: And after all of that, you're yammering on about your imaginary friend again.  He doesn't exist, and he has never existed.  Any being that (purportedly) created the entire universe, billions upon billions of galaxies, unfathomable distances, can find a reasonable way to provide an infinitesimal group of primates with proof of its existence that doesn't involve books of fantasies or lying con men.  Particularly con men who insist upon blind obedience and "trust" and "faith" because they need control over groups of people, because they know they have no proof of ANY of the ignorant vomit that they are spewing. Your universe-creator can speak for itself, in a way that is clear and obvious to all.  When it does, it will be worthy of some attention.  Until then piss off.

So if God puts on a little science show for us, how will the deaf, or the blind, or the severely disabled get their proof?
I guess the disabled will just have to miss out.

But if the proof comes from faith within that God has given as free gift, then all can know the truth.
Such a gift ensures that the ones who think they are better than God will not enter eternal life.
Why would anyone with sense allow the new world to be populated by total creeps?

Why should I believe in a god?  What good reason is there to believe a god exists?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#57
RE: Rebellion against god
Quote:So if God puts on a little science show for us, how will the deaf, or the blind, or the severely disabled get their proof?
I guess the disabled will just have to miss out.
Apparently god's son can cure blindness but not god . In order to see the evidence .


Quote:But if the proof comes from faith within that God has given as free gift, then all can know the truth.
Or can could cure all those things so people could see it . And not expect people to believe based on nothing .

Quote:Such a gift ensures that the ones who think they are better than God will not enter eternal life
From what i can see people are already better than your god . 

Quote:Why would anyone with sense allow the new world to be populated by total creeps?
As opposed to people like you who are assholes . I cringe at a world with just one of you.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#58
RE: Rebellion against god
(February 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Yeah, that's one of the thing that gets me about Christianity.

"God doesn't reveal himself because he values free will, and doesn't want to impede it." Bwuh? How does revealing himself eliminate free will? There's ample proof that our planet is round, yet many people still believe it's flat. I fail to see why credible evidence for a god, any god, would magically eliminate free will, or why ancient myths and preachers are required at all.

How does revealing himself cause one to appreciate his character - which was assassinated by those who once lived in his presence?

The people who were saved out of Egyptian slavery, what did they do when God revealed himself - they ran and worshiped the golden calf.

God revealing himself would achieve nothing for the majority of sinners.
How long should a revelation last to be convincing anyway?

You don't comment on the wonder of the sun every hour do you?
Think of human nature.

And how does God revealing himself suddenly remove free will?
Who makes up this stuff?
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#59
RE: Rebellion against god
(February 17, 2018 at 12:30 am)Banned Wrote:
(February 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Yeah, that's one of the thing that gets me about Christianity.

"God doesn't reveal himself because he values free will, and doesn't want to impede it."  Bwuh?  How does revealing himself eliminate free will?  There's ample proof that our planet is round, yet many people still believe it's flat.  I fail to see why credible evidence for a god, any god, would magically eliminate free will, or why ancient myths and preachers are required at all.
Who makes up this stuff?

What a good question!
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#60
RE: Rebellion against god
(February 17, 2018 at 12:26 am)Tizheruk Wrote: As opposed to people like you who are assholes . I cringe at a world with just one of you.

Which raises the question, why do you hang around and talk to people like me?
Are you mental or something?
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