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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 18, 2018 at 10:37 am
(March 18, 2018 at 10:34 am)JackRussell Wrote: One of the real problems is how theists could detect design when they think literally everything is designed.
One of these rocks is designed; can you tell which one. I am a trained archaeologist and struggled with this test.
How do you detect design. I do it by a comparison, and that comparison is to NATURE, not supernature.
The Super is the bit that has never been demonstrated.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 18, 2018 at 11:05 am
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(March 18, 2018 at 12:07 am)Astreja Wrote: Pro tip, Banned: Drop the amateur psychiatrist shtick. It's just making you look like a pretentious ass, and a liar to boot. Is that really the impression you want to give of your religion?
At least it would be an honest impression.
(March 18, 2018 at 12:13 am)He lives Wrote: The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:
I'll enjoy making mince-meat of you either way,
With what? You have only got hypothesis, nothing more. DNA tells us a different story:
DNA is coded with a tremendous amount of information and it is not random information either. It is not there by happenstance nor could it be assumed that nature could put it there. Is nature an intelligent life form? If so perhaps it could code DNA but it isn't so. So if nature did not add the code to the DNA, who did?
Yap, yap, yap. Assertion after assertion. Show some balls little man. Present some evidence and quit blowing smoke.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 18, 2018 at 12:58 pm
(March 18, 2018 at 12:13 am)He lives Wrote:
With what? You have only got hypothesis, nothing more. DNA tells us a different story:
DNA is coded with a tremendous amount of information and it is not random information either. It is not there by happenstance nor could it be assumed that nature could put it there. Is nature an intelligent life form? If so perhaps it could code DNA but it isn't so. So if nature did not add the code to the DNA, who did?
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2...fe-itself/
56 pages in this thread. You have been presented with a huge amount of links to respected, current, scientific research on the subject of abiogenesis, DNA, evolution, etc., etc.
I would bet my house that you have not studied the material presented to you.
You just keep vomiting out your ignorant, blinkered, fairy-tale moronic drivel, it never changes. You mind isn't just closed, it's fossilized. Every time you post "happenstance" and try to point to nature as proof of a deity -- you sound like a child screaming that SANTA DOES EXIST HE DOES HE DOES HE DOES YOU'RE A STUPID POOPY HEAD!!!! I would say that I really pity you, but actually I'm terrified that you might have children. Those poor, poor, crippled, abused little things. PLEASE tell me you didn't breed.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 18, 2018 at 2:44 pm
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Well..how else would the presents get under the tree? Pure chance? Bullshit!
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 18, 2018 at 3:49 pm
Another problem creationists have is with analogy.
DNA is analogous with a code; it is not a code, it is chemical interactions.
The ENCODE project was fascinating, trouble is, it actually demonstrates evolution, it was leapt upon a decade ago by creationists because they thought it implied something 'special' in the genome. It really doesn't though.
I can post papers from real scientists why, but I know that creationists are too dishonest to read them.
It's like GC's constant refrain that new information cannot be added in gene copying. Only true to those than don't understand the many modes of genetic transcription and copying errors or to the wilfully ignorant. Also not knowing what information means to molecular biologists.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 18, 2018 at 4:24 pm
(March 18, 2018 at 2:44 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Well..how else would the presents get under the tree? HappenstancePure chance? Bullshit!
Fixed that for you.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 18, 2018 at 4:35 pm
(March 11, 2018 at 7:02 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: This came up on another thread:
Emulating Jesus to the extent of celebrating the Sabbath when He did:
sunset Friday to sunset Saturday.
Damn few do, seems like a natch' to me however. I must be missing something, but there has to a church of Christians in the US SOMEWHERE that observes sunset Friday to sunset Saturday Sabbaths.
Why not worship on Jesus' schedule ?????
There are. Seventh Day Adventists
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 18, 2018 at 5:19 pm
Happy to be updated on the 7DAs there.
Somehow got it in my head they were midnight Friday to midnight Saturday Sabbatarians.
Tickled no end to learn official 7DA policy is sunset Friday to sunset Saturday.
It's wonderful!! And they are following a nearly universally ignored Commandment.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 18, 2018 at 5:29 pm
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 18, 2018 at 7:21 pm
(March 18, 2018 at 10:34 am)JackRussell Wrote: One of the real problems is how theists could detect design when they think literally everything is designed.
One of these rocks is designed; can you tell which one. I am a trained archaeologist and struggled with this test.
How do you detect design. I do it by a comparison, and that comparison is to NATURE, not supernature.
The Super is the bit that has never been demonstrated.
Are you gonna leave us hanging? Which one is it?
My guess is the purpleish one near the top left, because it has a smiley on it.
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