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What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 20, 2018 at 10:47 pm)He lives Wrote:
(March 20, 2018 at 8:00 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: We invented god.  Cool

Did you invent God? God sent us to earth to learn to be like he is.

(March 20, 2018 at 8:15 pm)Khemikal Wrote: ......if you say so........


Not really... long hair don't care. Banned thinks that you're a fucking idiot.  What say you?

The reason that NDEs do not bother many atheists, is because they know so little about them.

Why do you claim that?

From my experience theists accept claims of ndes within their own religion without question, but dismiss those of others.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 20, 2018 at 10:43 pm)Grandizer Wrote:
(March 20, 2018 at 7:49 pm)He lives Wrote: We didn't invent God, God invented us.


That NDE thing sure disturbs atheists.

Lol, youre not even trying.

I would say that you are not even trying. Have you ever been to an IANDS meeting? How much have you studied NDEs?
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 20, 2018 at 10:47 pm)He lives Wrote: Did you invent God? God sent us to earth to learn to be like he is.

Everyone is capable of imaginatively inventing a personal god in which to believe, yet the god remains no more real than the monsters imaginatively created beneath one's bed. A god concept is incapable of doing anything except cognitively disassociate one from reality since it is a mere delusion in the mind of the believer.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 20, 2018 at 10:52 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(March 20, 2018 at 10:47 pm)He lives Wrote: Did you invent God? God sent us to earth to learn to be like he is.


The reason that NDEs do not bother many atheists, is because they know so little about them.

Why do you claim that?

From my experience theists accept claims of ndes within their own religion without question, but dismiss those of others.

I accept all NDE stories that are legit. I do understand that what people see in their own NDE is from their own perspective, but each book I have read has shown me another piece of the puzzle.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 14, 2018 at 1:39 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:
(March 14, 2018 at 1:36 pm)He lives Wrote: It is easier if you know what love is. God is love.

Poppycock.

Indeed. Utter:

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(March 20, 2018 at 10:57 pm)He lives Wrote: I accept all NDE stories that are legit.

Me too. I nearly died once.

Oh wait, you don't mean stories about people who nearly died do you? You don't mean actual near death experiences. You mean some bollocks about someone dying temporarily and coming back. The soul temporarily floating away and coming back.

Sorry but that's a load of old bollocks and souls don't exist.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 20, 2018 at 10:52 pm)He lives Wrote:
(March 20, 2018 at 10:43 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Lol, youre not even trying.

I would say that you are not even trying. Have you ever been to an IANDS meeting? How much have you studied NDEs?

I'm plagued by NDE threads all the time in these forums, and I have posted in quite a few. They're easily explicable in terms of human psychology, so there's not an ounce of need to resort to the supernatural for explanations, not unless you're a believer who needs the supernatural explanations to be true for their own psychological comfort.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 20, 2018 at 10:47 pm)He lives Wrote:
(March 20, 2018 at 8:15 pm)Khemikal Wrote: ......if you say so........


Not really... long hair don't care. Banned thinks that you're a fucking idiot.  What say you?

The reason that NDEs do not bother many atheists, is because they know so little about them.

Other Christians™ aren't even remotely convinced by this whole "nde" song and dance.  They think that you're a mouthy asshole who's probably doing damage to the cause.........  

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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 20, 2018 at 10:57 pm)He lives Wrote:
(March 20, 2018 at 10:52 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Why do you claim that?

From my experience theists accept claims of ndes within their own religion without question, but dismiss those of others.

I accept all NDE stories that are legit. I do understand that what people see in their own NDE is from their own perspective, but each book I have read has shown me another piece of the puzzle.

Their own perspective, eh? I wonder why ...
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 20, 2018 at 10:47 pm)He lives Wrote: The reason that NDEs do not bother many atheists, is because they know so little about them.

Hey! I nearly died once, fuckface. I experienced near death. I am also atheist.

Nearly dying is a perfectly natural event that happens when you nearly die. There's nothing magical or hocus pocusy about it and no souls are required.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
Quote:The reason that NDEs do not bother many atheists, is because they know so little about them.
Nope it does not bother us . It's the fact monrons  try pushing it as evidence of mystic nonsense that's annoying . As it's not . 


Quote: I would say that you are not even trying. 

There is nothing to try 


Quote:Have you ever been to an IANDS meeting?
The mental masterbation of a group of hacks and moons bats don't interest me 

Quote:How much have you studied NDEs?

Deluded mystic crackpots are always  push this nonsense and not a single case presented is conclusive . nor as a whole 
Quote:I accept all NDE stories that are legit.
Then aren't very bright 
Quote:I do understand that what people see in their own NDE is from their own perspective
Yeah delusion tend to be subjective . And the puzzle is more of them picking up their shattered reasoning skills .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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