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What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
#61
RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
I remember my parents telling me, at a young and impressionable age, that unless people are "Evangelical Lutheran" they are doing it wrong. 

My guess is, under that criteria, most christians here are doing it wrong. No golden ticket for you.
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#62
RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 3, 2018 at 3:31 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(March 3, 2018 at 10:25 am)Huggy74 Wrote: This is simply wrong, the Catholics use a bible with 7 added extra books, while the Evangelicals only have the New Testament in their bible, with the exception of Psalms. So you really just proved GC's point.

It may be more accurate to say that Protestants use a bible with books subtracted from it. Martin Luther removed several books from the OT canon. At no time did Catholics add any books. He also wanted to remove several books from the NT (like James and Revelation) but his followers at the time didn't support this revision, so he didn't end up taking them out. I like to point this out to Christians: your one source of inerrant truth is the way it is because of the politics of the past.

Also, where do you get that evangelicals "only have the new testament"? This is incorrect. I wouldn't think these are errors you'd make, Huggy. Am I misinterpreting your words here?
*emphasis mine*
My fault for being unclear, the evangelical-heritage version of the bible only has the new testament and psalms.
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#63
RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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#64
RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
Eeeeewww........a lutheran bible?  The evangelical standard is the NIV. Behind that, the NAS. Show me someone wedded to their novelty bible and I'll show you a person looking for an excuse to be a nutter. Wink
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#65
RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
Even so, the NIV still has removed scriptures that are found in the KJV.
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#66
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#67
RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
(March 4, 2018 at 2:18 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Even so, thde NIV still has removed scriptures that are found in the KJV.

Such as . . .?
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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#68
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#69
RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
Biblical debates. You're winning if you can keep it about the bible, Hugster. Not me though, that thing is only any good for me for dropping off to sleep fast.
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#70
RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
For a guy that looks like Ernest Hemingway I'd figure you'd have an appreciation for the greatest literary work in existence
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