What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
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What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
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March 4, 2018 at 2:48 pm
So huggy trying to wiggle out of the flaws in his holy book trying to use copy right has failed .
Not really a surprise 
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
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March 4, 2018 at 2:50 pm
(March 4, 2018 at 2:46 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(March 4, 2018 at 2:41 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: I have studied copyright but never looked into the copyrights of various Bibles - never thought of it. But I did have to confirm this one - how can a book created by committee over 7 years, written in Elizabethan English, published in 1611 is still under copyright? But yes, the UK holds the copyright. That's pretty smart. Yeah Vulcan. I'm still not certain. I have studied text and music copyright . . . but the list of Bible versions and how they are copyrighted can make one's head spin. This is messy! And there are groups that claim that having a copyright proves that these are man's words, not gods. That is also ridiculous. (Pretty sure copyright has nothing to do with content.) And there are so many competing websites about Bible copyrights that someone would have to do a research study to pull the facts out of the propaganda.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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March 4, 2018 at 2:52 pm
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March 4, 2018 at 2:56 pm
You're right about that, Huggy. It's still under copyright. I was wrong in my assumption. (I looked up American copyright law, like an idiot.) Still, I don't think copyright is the issue. The NIV and others include the omitted verses in footnotes. If it were a matter of copyright, they wouldn't be included at all.
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March 4, 2018 at 2:57 pm
Huggy and I just agreed on something.
 
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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March 4, 2018 at 2:57 pm
(This post was last modified: March 4, 2018 at 2:57 pm by Amarok.)
Now watch huggy laser focus on that one point ignore everything else and proclaim victory
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 4, 2018 at 2:58 pm
(This post was last modified: March 4, 2018 at 3:05 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
The source content of any given translation is not and cannot be copyrighted. Any given translator is not, in compiling their NT, copyrighting the story of jesus. They are copyrighting their specific and noted translations, and any editorial material.
The reason the NIV is the standard is due to the overwhelming quality of it;s scholarship..and it's nature as a functional rather than formal or poetic translation. It makes many, many formal textual missions. Original language puns, for example. If somebody told you a greek joke...would you get it? So..they translate the message being communicated rather than a literally faithful recitation of the pun. This is the entire MO of a functional translation. They will omit and footnote any number of things that produce confusion rather than clarity of message. The main gripe people have about it presently..no shit..boycots, is their decision to use too much gender nuetral language. Triggered the shit out of the evangelicals.
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March 4, 2018 at 4:08 pm
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March 4, 2018 at 4:42 pm
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