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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 13, 2018 at 1:27 am
(March 13, 2018 at 1:20 am)He lives Wrote: I have always wondered why atheist are so adamant about spontaneous generation when there is no proof that it is even possible.
Because life originating from simple molecular structures is considerably more plausible than a super-powered sentient being just being out there, for no particular reason --
-- and then resorting to the utterly baffling behaviours described in the Bible. Seriously, planting two magical trees within reach of two unsophisticated humans with no moral knowledge, and then getting upset at them for failing an obedience test that they were incapable of comprehending until after they had failed it?
No, I'll stick with organic chemistry and wait patiently for science to connect the dots. I'm in no hurry.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 13, 2018 at 1:47 am
Quote:Until then, unless you have extraordinary evidence, please don't bother us with your extraordinary claims.
I'd settle for mundane evidence.... or any evidence at all. All we ever get is rehashed bible bullshit or silliness like this NDE nonsense. Just once I'd like to see some originality but the best of them, the Bart Ehrmans and such can't come up with anything new. So what are the odds that this bozo is going to break the mold?
We need to pity ourselves, Astreja. We are condemned to joust with amateurs.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 13, 2018 at 1:49 am
(March 12, 2018 at 6:35 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I saw a rabbit get pulled out of a hat once.
Ah, so you believe in God now?
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 13, 2018 at 1:54 am
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(March 13, 2018 at 1:12 am)Succubus Wrote: (March 13, 2018 at 1:03 am)He lives Wrote: ...Thank you for your honest appraisal. I respect your intellectual views. Some posts I do not answer because they are rude, crude, closed minded and or childish. I know some of the Christians are of the same nature and it bothers me. I know that alien abduction and bigfoot rely on anecdotal evidence, by the same token abiogenesis has no more evidence than intelligent design has. Certainly there is no proof that life was created by spontaneous generation.
As I said earlier, I'm mightily intrigued as to why you bother to use such odd coloured fonts. Seriously why do you do this?
spontaneous generation
The above is copy pasta from a google of spontaneous generation from the first page of the google search, under Wikipedia's article of the term. It's not from the actual Wiki page--just from the google search result. It has the exact same font/color parameters used in HL's post. So mystery solved.
What is it they say about answering one question and then being confronted with several more?
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 13, 2018 at 2:17 am
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(March 12, 2018 at 8:30 am)vorlon13 Wrote: (March 12, 2018 at 5:31 am)Godscreated Wrote: Paul's letters tell us we can have knowledge. You tell me how I can't know God is real when He has specifically answered prayers in a away that could not be coincidental.
GC
I'm reading your reply as a direct rebuke of John 3:16.
Sure you want to go there ??
Why didn't you answer my question, why did you avoid it. My reply in no way rebukes John 3:16, it actually expounds upon it. One must first be saved through faith before one can come to God to find more definite answers.
GC
(March 12, 2018 at 8:36 am)Cod Wrote: (March 12, 2018 at 7:38 am)Godscreated Wrote: You couldn't and wouldn't if you could understand. You believe about me as you desire, I've never given you a reason to believe I would lie to anyone about God. They were answered by revelation and the prayers are personal and actually none of your business.
GC
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Jesus.
Jesus who?
Not telling you.
Thanks a bunch.
Oh yes, you're funny and do not know who Jesus is, but one day you will meet Him, you should do that before your time runs out.
GC
(March 12, 2018 at 1:16 pm)Whateverist Wrote: (March 12, 2018 at 5:31 am)Godscreated Wrote: Paul's letters tell us we can have knowledge. You tell me how I can't know God is real when He has specifically answered prayers in a away that could not be coincidental.
GC
*my bold*
Well, unless it is an inside job and 'God' turns out to be one more aspect of the psyche right along aside the ego, id and whatnot. That actually would explain it and other things quite well.
Believe me when I say I wouldn't expect you to understand. The prayers were within my personal relationship with God and being so makes it none of your business, I do not care you do not believe me, I know the truth and that is what matters.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 13, 2018 at 2:48 am
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 13, 2018 at 3:12 am
(March 13, 2018 at 2:17 am)Godscreated Wrote: (March 12, 2018 at 1:16 pm)Whateverist Wrote: *my bold*
Well, unless it is an inside job and 'God' turns out to be one more aspect of the psyche right along aside the ego, id and whatnot. That actually would explain it and other things quite well.
Believe me when I say I wouldn't expect you to understand. The prayers were within my personal relationship with God and being so makes it none of your business, I do not care you do not believe me, I know the truth and that is what matters.
GC
Please believe me when I say I wouldn't expect you to agree with me either. If it were none of my business you should never have posted it on a public forum. That makes it anyone's business who cares to comment on it. You think you know the truth and that makes you pretty much like everyone else, except that some of us are open to the possibility of being wrong sometimes. You seem to be immune from such doubts, but it isn't something I can congratulate you for.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 13, 2018 at 3:14 am
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Quote:Believe me when I say I wouldn't expect you to understand. The prayers were within my personal relationship with God and being so makes it none of your business, I do not care you do not believe me, I know the truth and that is what matters.
If you don't care then don't post it here fool .
Quote: Oh yes, you're funny and do not know who Jesus is, but one day you will meet Him, you should do that before your time runs out.
Your lame preaching impresses no one
Quote:Why didn't you answer my question, why did you avoid it. My reply in no way rebukes John 3:16, it actually expounds upon it. One must first be saved through faith before one can come to God to find more definite answers.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 13, 2018 at 4:05 am
(March 13, 2018 at 2:17 am)Godscreated Wrote: (March 12, 2018 at 8:36 am)Cod Wrote: Knock knock.
Who's there?
Jesus.
Jesus who?
Not telling you.
Thanks a bunch.
Oh yes, you're funny and do not know who Jesus is, but one day you will meet Him, you should do that before your time runs out.
GC
Hang on... You're the one telling everyone to get to know God, and that you already know him. So when someone asks you direct questions about how you to get to know him, why so evasive? I would have thought that being a Christian involved leading people in the right direction, not bragging about your knowledge but at the same time keeping it to yourself.
I personally think you have no more Knowledge of God than anyone else, but it makes you feel good to think that you do.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 13, 2018 at 4:49 am
(March 12, 2018 at 11:39 am)He lives Wrote: I am confident that abiogenesis can not and will not ever be proven because life was created by intelligent design.
I think I see part of the problem with your thinking. You think abiogenesis is the same as spontaneous generation, don't you? Some news for you: it's not. Life isn't some spiritual entity that just spontaneously emerged out of nowhere. It's not even equivalent to consciousness. It's a process that emerged gradually and continues to occur, correlating with process of biological evolution via natural and artificial selection.
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