What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?

[He lives]

It is not about join or you'll be sorry, it is learning the importance loving everyone through word and deed.

Which can adequately be done without adherence to religion.

It is easier if you know what love is. God is love.

[Silver]

It is easier if you know what love is. God is love.

Poppycock.

[Whateverist]

what a 3 dimensional way of thinking.

What if the whole of reality exceeded the confines of 3 dimensional thought?

Not addressed to me of course but I personally totally identify as 3 dimensional, that's where me and my peoples live.

What if ..

.. there are more inhabitable dimensions

.. or supernatural things

.. or heaven and hell?

Well then I guess I'll miss out, so long as believing in them plays any role in ones reality.  I just don't think it does.  To you it may seem insufficient but I find the 3 dimensional world along with time and reality as we know it entirely satisfactory.  If there are supernatural things as well and your believing in them gets you there, please convey my regrets.  Not that I'd actually have any but, you know, I wouldn't want to seem rude.

[Angrboda]

Which can adequately be done without adherence to religion.

It is easier if you know what love is. God is love.

Really? Well then perhaps you can answer the questions I raised in the following post: https://atheistforums.org/thread-53392-p...pid1699865

[He lives]

You weren't there either, and yes I do indeed discount Susan's statement.

If we're going to play that game, you weren't there either. So you are going to place your faith in the "results" of a study in which the chief investigator admits to dozing off and failing to maintain adequate controls.

Lol

No I wasn't there, however Charles Tart has very good credentials. Susan Blackmore once had a OBE herself which lasted for three hours, but has decided it wasn't real. She has indeed become very biased. I believe that is why she overlooked the obvious.

[LadyForCamus]

My troll-sensors are tingling.

[Crossless2.0]

If we're going to play that game, you weren't there either. So you are going to place your faith in the "results" of a study in which the chief investigator admits to dozing off and failing to maintain adequate controls.

Lol

No I wasn't there, however Charles Tart has very good credentials. Susan Blackmore once had a OBE herself which lasted for three hours, but has decided it wasn't real. She has indeed become very biased. I believe that is why she overlooked the obvious.

You can believe whatever you want. But you won't be taken seriously for a minute if you are unable or unwilling to recognize that this was a very poorly thought-out experiment.

[Drich]

what a 3 dimensional way of thinking.

What if the whole of reality exceeded the confines of 3 dimensional thought?

Not addressed to me of course but I personally totally identify as 3 dimensional, that's where me and my peoples live.

What if ..

.. there are more inhabitable dimensions

.. or supernatural things

.. or heaven and hell?

Well then I guess I'll miss out, so long as believing in them plays any role in ones reality.  I just don't think it does.  To you it may seem insufficient but I find the 3 dimensional world along with time and reality as we know it entirely satisfactory.  If there are supernatural things as well and your believing in them gets you there, please convey my regrets.  Not that I'd actually have any but, you know, I wouldn't want to seem rude.

Again... Time being the 4th dimension. to be three dimensional only does not afford our activity played out over time. Science can not 'oserve or experiment with things lost to time.' it can only guess. hence science is the study of the three tangible dimensions.

[Whateverist]

Not addressed to me of course but I personally totally identify as 3 dimensional, that's where me and my peoples live.

What if ..

.. there are more inhabitable dimensions

.. or supernatural things

.. or heaven and hell?

Well then I guess I'll miss out, so long as believing in them plays any role in ones reality.  I just don't think it does.  To you it may seem insufficient but I find the 3 dimensional world along with time and reality as we know it entirely satisfactory.  If there are supernatural things as well and your believing in them gets you there, please convey my regrets.  Not that I'd actually have any but, you know, I wouldn't want to seem rude.

Again... Time being the 4th dimension. to be three dimensional only does not afford our activity played out over time. Science can not 'oserve or experiment with things lost to time.' it can only guess. hence science is the study of the three tangible dimensions.

Well, do you have any good reason to think there is anything that exists at all that doesn't have a three dimensional footprint (4 if you want to count time)?

[Amarok]

No I wasn't there, however Charles Tart has very good credentials. Susan Blackmore once had a OBE herself which lasted for three hours, but has decided it wasn't real. She has indeed become very biased. I believe that is why she overlooked the obvious.

Nope Tart is totally biased despite his credentials

Susan Blackmore  is not biased in the least simply woke up and smelled the coffee that NDE is nonsense . And no she overlooked nothing . She gave a  impartial assessment .Your just butt hurt your frauds are being exposed .

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It is easier if you know what love is. God is love.

Nope the god of the bible is a petty , jealous , vengeful, intolerant, controlling , abusive lover .