What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?

[vorlon13]

would that be the bleenth commandment ??

(sorry George . . . . )

[He lives]

So, you're OK with the new one, Defraud Not ?

Which is covered by being honest.

[Succubus]

My troll-sensors are tingling.

If light did not penetrate through air we would all be in the dark, not just those who are too blind to see. Sometimes the blind are able to see better than those who have sight.

What she said.

[drfuzzy]

Jesus failed to endorse all the Commandments.

(your move now)

Jesus gave us the higher law see Matthew 5-7. He also said: 

(New Testament | John 14:15 - 17)

15 ¶ If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

[Amarok]

If light did not penetrate through air we would all be in the dark, not just those who are too blind to see. Sometimes the blind are able to see better than those who have sight.

[vorlon13]

So, you're OK with the new one, Defraud Not ?

Which is covered by being honest.

Schism bait.

Straight from Jesus . . . . .

[Angrboda]

If light did not penetrate through air we would all be in the dark, not just those who are too blind to see. Sometimes the blind are able to see better than those who have sight.

"He who farts in church sits in own pew."

I can make nonsensical aphorisms too, they don't say anything. They're just an attempt to deflect attention away from a palpable difficulty.

[He lives]

If light did not penetrate through air we would all be in the dark, not just those who are too blind to see. Sometimes the blind are able to see better than those who have sight.

"He who farts in church sits in own pew."

I can make nonsensical aphorisms too, they don't say anything.  They're just an attempt to deflect attention away from a palpable difficulty.

I've heard that one before. However, I was referring to what seems obvious to me, and that is that consciousness is not of the body. Our thoughts do not come from random electrical impulses in the brain. Neither did our bodies come about by random acts of nature. It was designed just like a Boeing 747. Nature had billions of years to design a 747, but it didn't. Our bodies are much more complicated than a 747. There is a big problem with nature did it.

[Silver]

I understand the human body better than a 747. So much for complicated.

[The Grand Nudger]

I've heard that one before. However, I was referring to what seems obvious to me, and that is that consciousness is not of the body.

That's what seems obvious to you?  Obvious on grounds of what?

Our thoughts do not come from random electrical impulses in the brain.

IKR, they come from random nothings in the nothing!  Literally no one who describes consciousness as a product of the brain is telling you that it comes from random electrical impulses, lol.  

Neither did our bodies come about by random acts of nature.

Your in luck here...again..because evolutionary biology does not assert that your body came about by random "acts of nature"...either.

 It was designed just like a Boeing 747.

Obviously not -just- like a boeing 747.  People designed those...we probably didn't design life, lol.  Further, 747s aren't born.   They don't have heritable attributes to pass on, along with mutations, to the offspring they never have.  So...regardless of what it is you believe..or what you're trying to express with this tired ass comment...what's "obvious"..as in actually obvious and not obviously an article of your faith..is that our bodies didn't come about by any process even remotely like the one that gave us a 747.  

Because of this...the fact that a 747 is designed has absolutely nothing to say about our bodies or how we came to possess them as they are.  

Nature had billions of years to design a 747, but it didn't.

It couldn't.......so.......that's hardly surprising. 

 Our bodies are much more complicated than a 747. There is a big problem with nature did it.

Sure...horrendously complicated.  Perhaps needlessly complicated.  Piles and piles and piles of accumulated systems and divergence.  There are tons of big problems -because- "nature did it".  I mean...that or your tinkergod is a massive fuckup and perpetual underachiever that couldn't engineer so much as a 747 (never quite got around to that one..did he...that was our baby).....despite having eternity from eternity and all the power in the universe with which to do so. The pinnacle of his creation being substantially less well engineered than a 747 in the first place - but we're working on it..so we might cover for his ass again.

Your call.