What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?

[Ravenshire]

Trying to blow smoke up my ass. Ok.

Let me tell you something, little POE. You know fuck all ...
... blow smoke up our asses and only managed to blow it out your own.

...go fuck yourself, POE.

Doncha just love his posting history devoid of personal attacks? Or, so he claimed in another thread.

Do you think the way you address people is civil?

I think the way I address people is earned, POE.

You come here talking shit and making unsupported assertions and refuse to address the points others make, then you want to complain about a bit of profanity. Trust me, your intellectual dishonesty is as repulsive to me as any lack of civility in my responses to it is to you.

So, unless you're actually going to support one or more of these ridiculous assertions you've made, or actually refute one or more of the counter points made against them (things people have asked you to do repeatedly, but you seem utterly unable to do), why don't you go fuck yourself?

[Astreja]

Your god has not been demonstrated to exist, Banned. We will use chemicals in this discussion.

[Ravenshire]

A better example, do you believe that if sodium and chlorine come into contact they will lie inert until your gawd kick starts the chemical reaction? Fact, busted.

Chemicals were designed and made by God to have specific activities.
If you want to give an example of something which creates, organizes or assembles itself, do not use God's creation.
I have mentioned that already.

Prove your fucking gawd is there! Everyone else around here (except your partner in trolling, He Lives) has at least attempted to support their positions. You haven't. Not once. So, until you provide something to back up your bullshit, fuck off, POE.

[Banned]

Banned wrote: Do you have any evidence of things outside of God's creation, that just appear by organizing themselves into functionality and working?
No, but you want to use God's creation as an example of that?
So apart from nature, including the functionality of the elements and chemicals, you don't have any evidence that things work by themselves.
Things don't work by, or create themselves. That is a fact, not a theory.

Nope man made objects don't . Things in nature do as all the evidence abundantly shows . And there is of course no reason to think a god is involved in nature in any form .

Thank you for your honest reply.
So there's no evidence anywhere in the world where things create and work themselves into existence, except in nature, and you want me to believe that the things which are highly complex, far beyond human intelligence to make or think of, are exactly the opposite of all other facts - that they miraculously put millions of years into designing themselves?

[Ravenshire]

Your god has not been demonstrated to exist, Banned.  We will use chemicals in this discussion.

I think he wants us to stay away from the sciences because he doesn't understand it anywhere near enough to counter it. Of course if he truly understood it, he wouldn't be trying to counter it.

[Banned]

Do you think the way you address people is civil?

I think the way I address people is earned, POE.

You come here talking shit and making unsupported assertions and refuse to address the points others make, then you want to complain about a bit of profanity. Trust me, your intellectual dishonesty is as repulsive to me as any lack of civility in my responses to it is to you.

So, unless you're actually going to support one or more of these ridiculous assertions you've made, or actually refute one or more of the counter points made against them (things people have asked you to do repeatedly, but you seem utterly unable to do), why don't you go fuck yourself?

You have been abusive for no reason, from the beginning. I have the right to stand up against it, and to challenge you. You think that you have the right to abuse people after you caused the trouble - isn't that your history off line?

[Ravenshire]

Nope man made objects don't . Things in nature do as all the evidence abundantly shows . And there is of course no reason to think a god is involved in nature in any form .

Thank you for your honest reply.
So there's no evidence anywhere in the world where things create and work themselves into existence, except in nature, and you want me to believe that the things which are highly complex, far beyond human intelligence to make or think of, are exactly the opposite of all other facts - that they miraculously put millions of years into designing themselves?

No, actually most of us here want you to educate yourself, outside of your indoctrination, and shed the shackles of willful ignorance. Maybe then you wouldn't feel the need to troll these forums and all our lives would be better.

[Banned]

Prove your fucking gawd is there! Everyone else around here (except your partner in trolling, He Lives) has at least attempted to support their positions. You haven't. Not once. So, until you provide something to back up your bullshit, fuck off, POE.

You sound like you are beside yourself - it is just a discussion isn't it?

Or have you invested all your personal frustrations here as well?

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Thank you for your honest reply.
So there's no evidence anywhere in the world where things create and work themselves into existence, except in nature, and you want me to believe that the things which are highly complex, far beyond human intelligence to make or think of, are exactly the opposite of all other facts - that they miraculously put millions of years into designing themselves?

No, actually most of us here want you to educate yourself, outside of your indoctrination, and shed the shackles of willful ignorance. Maybe then you wouldn't feel the need to troll these forums and all our lives would be better.

Don't be afraid, it's just my opinion.

[Ravenshire]

I think the way I address people is earned, POE.

You come here talking shit and making unsupported assertions and refuse to address the points others make, then you want to complain about a bit of profanity. Trust me, your intellectual dishonesty is as repulsive to me as any lack of civility in my responses to it is to you.

So, unless you're actually going to support one or more of these ridiculous assertions you've made, or actually refute one or more of the counter points made against them (things people have asked you to do repeatedly, but you seem utterly unable to do), why don't you go fuck yourself?

You have been abusive for no reason, from the beginning. I have the right to stand up against it, and to challenge you. You think that you have the right to abuse people after you caused the trouble - isn't that your history off line?

You don't even know my history online and you want to claim some great insight to my history offline? Fuck you.

You've been making baseless assertion from the beginning. I've just been calling you on your bullshit.

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Prove your fucking gawd is there! Everyone else around here (except your partner in trolling, He Lives) has at least attempted to support their positions. You haven't. Not once. So, until you provide something to back up your bullshit, fuck off, POE.

You sound like you are beside yourself - it is just a discussion isn't it?

Or have you invested all your personal frustrations here as well?

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No, actually most of us here want you to educate yourself, outside of your indoctrination, and shed the shackles of willful ignorance. Maybe then you wouldn't feel the need to troll these forums and all our lives would be better.

Don't be afraid, it's just my opinion.

Beside myself? Yes. Beside myself with mirth. Don't pretend to know what others are feeling. Hell, don't pretend to any knowledge you don't actually have. It only makes you look even less intelligent than you've already managed.

Opinions aren't typically spouted off as fact, as you have done and likely will continue to do, without getting called for the bullshit they are.

[Astreja]

Pro tip, Banned: Drop the amateur psychiatrist shtick. It's just making you look like a pretentious ass, and a liar to boot. Is that really the impression you want to give of your religion?