What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?

[vulcanlogician]

Why did it start before brain death? Let's focus on that. The link provided explains how she might have described the instruments used.

Edit: we can look into other aspects in detail, too... but let's address them one at a time.

[vorlon13]

Don't answer that !!!

You're promoting SATAN !!!!

[He lives]

[drfuzzy]

[vorlon13]

Mucking about with NDEs and OOBEs is CLEARLY forbidden.

"There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead.

[vulcanlogician]

Now the Pam Reynolds story has lost all coherence. It was an OBE that had nothing to do with her brain death-- or it did have something to do with it??--it could have happened either way?? What exactly does her simulated brain death have to with it it, then?

So far, this isn't very convincing.

[vorlon13]

It's SATANIC, it might sway some believers and foul up their Salvation !!!

[Amarok]

Abiogenesis is not a viable theory. It is made up of several hypothesis and they can not all be right.

Abiogenesis is a theory  again ignorance

[vulcanlogician]

He Lives, check this video out. It might help you see where we are coming from. (It comes highly recommended by Cyberman/Stimbo.) I really, really like this video, and I really, really would appreciate if you watched it.




And just in case my endorsement isn't enough... check out this rave review:

A really good video, thanks. 
It confirms what I thought. It's the great humanistic pill that nearly all will swallow...
It counts on two things, that the human mind is the ultimate criterion for knowledge and understanding, and that society will determine what clear thinking is. 
It also finishes beautifuly with the ideaology of the "collective future."

Wow, thanks for that, I'll be sharing it right away with people who know what the future holds.

[Whateverist]

Abiogenesis is no more a "theory" than is god-did-it.  Both are assumptions.  We assume that eventually a reasonable theory regarding the manner in which inorganic chemistry crossed the barrier into the organic variety will emerge.  You on the other just assume that god did it and have no expectation of ever understanding how.  You're fine with going without a theory forever since you assume human beings just aren't up to it.

That is not true. I do have expectations that it will indeed be proven that there is a spirit and that the body without the spirit is dead. People who have NDEs have described the silver cord mentioned in the Bible.

I suppose it would be asking too much for you to understand the difference between getting confirmation for your god-did-it assumption after you die versus having a thorough explanation for just how God created organic chemistry from inorganic chemistry (because whether you realize it or not, all the organic chemical components of life rely on the underlying relationships between inorganic compounds). Just knowing that god-did-it is not an explanation and therefore is no theory at all.