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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 24, 2018 at 11:03 am
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Why did it start before brain death? Let's focus on that. The link provided explains how she might have described the instruments used.
Edit: we can look into other aspects in detail, too... but let's address them one at a time.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 24, 2018 at 11:13 am
Don't answer that !!!
You're promoting SATAN !!!!
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 24, 2018 at 11:56 am
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(March 24, 2018 at 10:45 am)Whateverist Wrote: (March 24, 2018 at 10:18 am)He lives Wrote: Abiogenesis is not a viable theory. It is made up of several hypothesis and they can not all be right.
Abiogenesis is no more a "theory" than is god-did-it. Both are assumptions. We assume that eventually a reasonable theory regarding the manner in which inorganic chemistry crossed the barrier into the organic variety will emerge. You on the other just assume that god did it and have no expectation of ever understanding how. You're fine with going without a theory forever since you assume human beings just aren't up to it.
That is not true. I do have expectations that it will indeed be proven that there is a spirit and that the body without the spirit is dead. People who have NDEs have described the silver cord mentioned in the Bible.
(March 24, 2018 at 6:41 am)Succubus Wrote: (March 24, 2018 at 12:03 am)He lives Wrote: Here is very good evidence of out of body NDE.
https://youtu.be/WNbdUEqDB-k
Or a longer version:
https://youtu.be/S-hi8bMIlQ4
Aaaaand once again changing the topic in mid flight.
(March 24, 2018 at 12:45 am)He lives Wrote: You like to pretend that you are not gullible yet you believe that abiogenesis is a viable hypothesis.
And once again with the switch.
There are many topics related to ID and abiogenesis, so what?
(March 24, 2018 at 10:49 am)Khemikal Wrote: (March 24, 2018 at 10:18 am)He lives Wrote: Abiogenesis is not a viable theory. It is made up of several hypothesis and they can not all be right.
Tell that to magic book. Correct me if I'm wrong..but it does say that djinn made life where once there was none..does it not?
Mud, was it, and magic breath?
Just because you can not understand the science behind life is no reason to believe it is magic. Neither is the spirit magic, it is the life of the body.
(March 24, 2018 at 11:03 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: Why did it start before brain death? Let's focus on that. The link provided explains how she might have described the instruments used.
Edit: we can look into other aspects in detail, too... but let's address them one at a time.
There was a person involved in an automobile accident and had a NDE. His spirit left the body just before the accident happened. Some people have reported that they can leave their body at will (a stral projection). In fact most NDEs are accounts of the spirit leaving the body before the body dies.
(March 24, 2018 at 11:13 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Don't answer that !!!
You're promoting SATAN !!!!
God is the God of the living which includes Moses and Abraham:
(New Testament | Matthew 22:31 - 33)
31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
33 And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 24, 2018 at 12:29 pm
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 24, 2018 at 12:39 pm
Mucking about with NDEs and OOBEs is CLEARLY forbidden.
"There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 24, 2018 at 12:43 pm
Now the Pam Reynolds story has lost all coherence. It was an OBE that had nothing to do with her brain death-- or it did have something to do with it??--it could have happened either way?? What exactly does her simulated brain death have to with it it, then?
So far, this isn't very convincing.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 24, 2018 at 12:45 pm
It's SATANIC, it might sway some believers and foul up their Salvation !!!
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 24, 2018 at 12:56 pm
Quote:Abiogenesis is not a viable theory. It is made up of several hypothesis and they can not all be right.
Abiogenesis is a theory again ignorance
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 24, 2018 at 1:08 pm
He Lives, check this video out. It might help you see where we are coming from. (It comes highly recommended by Cyberman/Stimbo.) I really, really like this video, and I really, really would appreciate if you watched it.
And just in case my endorsement isn't enough... check out this rave review:
(December 25, 2017 at 5:59 pm)Banned Wrote: A really good video, thanks.
It confirms what I thought. It's the great humanistic pill that nearly all will swallow...
It counts on two things, that the human mind is the ultimate criterion for knowledge and understanding, and that society will determine what clear thinking is.
It also finishes beautifuly with the ideaology of the "collective future."
Wow, thanks for that, I'll be sharing it right away with people who know what the future holds.
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RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 24, 2018 at 2:17 pm
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(March 24, 2018 at 11:56 am)He lives Wrote: (March 24, 2018 at 10:45 am)Whateverist Wrote: Abiogenesis is no more a "theory" than is god-did-it. Both are assumptions. We assume that eventually a reasonable theory regarding the manner in which inorganic chemistry crossed the barrier into the organic variety will emerge. You on the other just assume that god did it and have no expectation of ever understanding how. You're fine with going without a theory forever since you assume human beings just aren't up to it.
That is not true. I do have expectations that it will indeed be proven that there is a spirit and that the body without the spirit is dead. People who have NDEs have described the silver cord mentioned in the Bible.
I suppose it would be asking too much for you to understand the difference between getting confirmation for your god-did-it assumption after you die versus having a thorough explanation for just how God created organic chemistry from inorganic chemistry (because whether you realize it or not, all the organic chemical components of life rely on the underlying relationships between inorganic compounds). Just knowing that god-did-it is not an explanation and therefore is no theory at all.
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