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What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
Interesting thing is, it was originally Adam's first wife. But nobody remembers Lilith nowadays. There's a change in the text for you.
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10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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(March 1, 2018 at 9:03 am)Hammy Wrote:
(March 1, 2018 at 12:03 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Why are leftists obsessed with what we, eat, drink, drive, smoke, and carry our groceries in?

Why are right-wingers such stuck up callous douche bags who don't give a fuck about the poor and unfortunate?

Cuz...jesus.
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Jesus loves cruelty. In fact it's part of his magic act. Saw a woman in half. Spit on poor people and call them worthless lefty cunts. It's all part of the service.
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(March 1, 2018 at 7:59 pm)Hammy Wrote: Jesus loves cruelty. In fact it's part of his magic act. Saw a woman in half. Spit on poor people and call them worthless lefty cunts. It's all part of the service.

Just depends on the schism/denomination/sect/independent unregulated stand alone church one belongs to.
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(March 1, 2018 at 12:03 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:
(February 28, 2018 at 11:33 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Why are the religious so obsessed with being the bedroom police? (or wherever you might prefer such activity)

I really can't feature that. They have this thing that sex is only for procreation. Missionary position attained, sah, for the regulatory 5 nanoseconds, sah. No actual pleasure was induced, sah. All activities were conducted in grim silence, sah.

It is an unmade Carry On film.

Why are leftists obsessed with what we, eat, drink, drive, smoke, and carry our groceries in?

Because we want literally every last person in the whole world, no matter how undeserving, to live longer, happier and be healthier than you.
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(March 1, 2018 at 7:04 pm)rskovride Wrote:
(March 1, 2018 at 6:53 pm)wheatpenny Wrote: 3. The infamous Talking Donkey. I don't care what anyone says, a donkey's vocal mechanism is incapable of producing the sounds that human speech requires.

and talking snakes...

(March 1, 2018 at 7:50 pm)wheatpenny Wrote: Oh, yeah, I forgot about the snake. That too.

The deranged pigs, also mentioned in despatches.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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Why don't I specifically prescribe to Christianity? Because it is wrong and always was wrong on so many accounts. Like the movement of planets, sexuality, contraception, gays, love, marriage, divorce, child upbringing, AIDS, medicine, abortion, food, reality and so on, it's so wrong and always has been wrong.

Now, I know that for lot of people that is not a deal breaker and they simply ignore it because look at some statistics with, for instance, Catholics - since they are the biggest Christian group. Catholic (and other Christian) women have abortions at the same rate as non-Catholic women; also overwhelming majority use birth control - presumably with Catholic men; support the use of condoms to prevent disease and HIV transmission; think abortion should be legal; believe premarital sex is morally acceptable.

Also Christianity is all about few people manipulating large amount of people. That's why some Christian divided into denomination, but it always come to same.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(March 2, 2018 at 4:07 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Why don't I specifically prescribe to Christianity? Because it is wrong and always was wrong on so many accounts. Like the movement of planets, sexuality, contraception, gays, love, marriage, divorce, child upbringing, AIDS, medicine, abortion, food, reality and so on, it's so wrong and always has been wrong.

Now, I know that for lot of people that is not a deal breaker and they simply ignore it because look at some statistics with, for instance, Catholics - since they are the biggest Christian group. Catholic (and other Christian) women have abortions at the same rate as non-Catholic women; also overwhelming majority use birth control - presumably with Catholic men; support the use of condoms to prevent disease and HIV transmission; think abortion should be legal; believe premarital sex is morally acceptable.

Also Christianity is all about few people manipulating large amount of people. That's why some Christian divided into denomination, but it always come to same.

I agree, even if I accepted it as factual, I wouldn't be interested in joining. You couldn't get me far enough away from it.
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What gets me is that Christians are so crazy in their opposition to abortion and insist that it's against the Bible, but when I was a Christian I researched it and the Bible does not even mention abortion much less forbid it. In fact, Genesis 2:7 says that Adam became a living being when he took his first breath.
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(March 2, 2018 at 11:55 am)wheatpenny Wrote: What gets me is that Christians are so crazy in their opposition to abortion and insist that it's against the Bible, but when I was a Christian I researched it and the Bible does not even mention abortion much less forbid it. In fact, Genesis 2:7 says that Adam became a living being when he took his first breath.

The Bible contains instructions on how to cause an abortion:

Quote:Numbers 5:11-31 New International Version (NIV)
The Test for an Unfaithful Wife
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NIV
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