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Homosexuality no longer a sin
RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
GC,

I am a former Christian, now atheist. See above.

Dawn
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
Only a true Christian knows how to filter the word of god properly to match up with their own opinions.
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
(June 12, 2018 at 2:13 am)Godscreated Wrote: By the way and I think I've said this before, for someone who has memorized the Bible you {Jehanne} sure do not us it in your arguments, could it be you are afraid of the effects it could have on you.

I think it's more likely that Jehanne has recognized that the Bible is not all that useful in arguments dealing with the real world.

What *is* it with you and fear, anyway?
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
(June 12, 2018 at 8:57 am)Astreja Wrote:
(June 12, 2018 at 2:13 am)Godscreated Wrote: By the way and I think I've said this before, for someone who has memorized the Bible you {Jehanne} sure do not us it in your arguments, could it be you are afraid of the effects it could have on you.

I think it's more likely that Jehanne has recognized that the Bible is not all that useful in arguments dealing with the real world.

What *is* it with you and fear, anyway?

I think that the Bible is a useful work of fiction, kind of on par with the Iliad and Odyssey, although, I would rank the later two works as of greater literary and even historical importance.
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
(June 12, 2018 at 8:57 am)Astreja Wrote:
(June 12, 2018 at 2:13 am)Godscreated Wrote: By the way and I think I've said this before, for someone who has memorized the Bible you {Jehanne} sure do not us it in your arguments, could it be you are afraid of the effects it could have on you.

I think it's more likely that Jehanne has recognized that the Bible is not all that useful in arguments dealing with the real world.

What *is* it with you and fear, anyway?

I fear somethings, but not my eternal destination, that has been secured by God himself.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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You seem awfully intent on trying to make *us* afraid of your god and our "eternal destination." Cut it out. It's not working.
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(June 13, 2018 at 1:21 am)Astreja Wrote: You seem awfully intent on trying to make *us* afraid of your god and our "eternal destination."  Cut it out.  It's not working.

Sorry but no. You should be afraid, God is the judge and who He is is the standard, a standard that's perfect and unattainable by people. God can make the willing perfect through the forgiveness grace brings and grace comes through belief in Jesus Christ. I'm only telling you what I know for a fact, what God has revealed and I'm interested in your eternal destination and that it is one with God, I think it would be nice to meet you there.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
(June 13, 2018 at 1:44 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(June 13, 2018 at 1:21 am)Astreja Wrote: You seem awfully intent on trying to make *us* afraid of your god and our "eternal destination."  Cut it out.  It's not working.

Sorry but no. You should be afraid, God is the judge and who He is is the standard, a standard that's perfect and unattainable by people. God can make the willing perfect through the forgiveness grace brings and grace comes through belief in Jesus Christ. I'm only telling you what I know for a fact, what God has revealed and I'm interested in your eternal destination and that it is one with God, I think it would be nice to meet you there.

GC

I have no intention of spending eternity in the presence of a god that would allow any sentient being at all to remain in a state of eternal suffering, regardless of how they got there.  
None.  Zero.  I refuse unconditionally.

I hereby commit the Unforgivable Sin by stating for the record that I see no functional difference whatsoever between the "Holy Spirit" and "Satan."  For all your talk about being led by the Holy Spirit, GC, and for all your protestation that you're doing this because you care, you're coming across as an abusive control freak who wants to reduce perfectly sane and functional nonbelievers to pathetic, quivering masses of Stockholm Syndrome-inspired subservience to an imaginary sky bastard.

Not only do I not want to meet you in heaven -- I don't want to meet you in real life, either.  You disgust me.
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
Those who know for certain, with nothing except fallible personal faith to back it up, are to be feared. Not an imaginary deity.
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
(June 13, 2018 at 2:05 am)Astreja Wrote:
(June 13, 2018 at 1:44 am)Godscreated Wrote: Sorry but no. You should be afraid, God is the judge and who He is is the standard, a standard that's perfect and unattainable by people. God can make the willing perfect through the forgiveness grace brings and grace comes through belief in Jesus Christ. I'm only telling you what I know for a fact, what God has revealed and I'm interested in your eternal destination and that it is one with God, I think it would be nice to meet you there.

GC

I have no intention of spending eternity in the presence of a god that would allow any sentient being at all to remain in a state of eternal suffering, regardless of how they got there.  
None.  Zero.  I refuse unconditionally.

I hereby commit the Unforgivable Sin by stating for the record that I see no functional difference whatsoever between the "Holy Spirit" and "Satan."  For all your talk about being led by the Holy Spirit, GC, and for all your protestation that you're doing this because you care, you're coming across as an abusive control freak who wants to reduce perfectly sane and functional nonbelievers to pathetic, quivering masses of Stockholm Syndrome-inspired subservience to an imaginary sky bastard.

Not only do I not want to meet you in heaven -- I don't want to meet you in real life, either.  You disgust me.

 Fine, if that's how you want it. I'm right in what I know and am sad for you. I'm sure we have nothing else to ever say to each other.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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