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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
June 5, 2018 at 12:00 pm
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(June 5, 2018 at 11:56 am)Divinity Wrote: Homosexuality was never a sin.
It was just placed there by some bigots who probably got oral sex from a llama.
Some people make it as if the act is worse then the state (of attraction).
I believe the actions compound the state, but the state is the root. For many, they weren't on guard on when young and society didn't make it easier by tricking them they have no will in this matter and what they embrace is not their choice.
You show me one state aside from this, that we don't choose.
We choose all our states. And what is possibly evil, is in fact evil. IT doesn't make sense to say "if homosexuality can be chosen, yes it would be evil, but it's not, because this possible evil cannot be chosen, and is in fact, never chosen but people are born like that."
By the way, what do you guys do with claims of former gays, are they all lying?
Maybe most are, maybe most are, but is there any proof all of them are?
(June 5, 2018 at 11:59 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: (June 5, 2018 at 11:35 am)MysticKnight Wrote: We choose whether we are honest or not about a subject.
And we choose to be stubborn or not when something is proven.
And we choose to follow things on conjecture or not.
And we choose to mix truth with falsehood, or just hold on to truth.
All these are decisions we make.
And we choose the level of knowledge we have by how much we strive for it.
And the striving has to be by how much we believe it's worthy to strive for knowledge, and the heart of that, is how much we choose to love and value God.
One of these things is not like the other ones....
Can you tell which one?
Wild guess, you are going to say by how we choose to love and value God?
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
June 5, 2018 at 12:04 pm
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Personal bigotries stuffed into the mouth of a god strike me as more evil, by far...than preferring peener.
-but you do you, it;s not as if you could do otherwise, right?
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
June 5, 2018 at 12:16 pm
(June 5, 2018 at 12:04 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Personal bigotries stuffed into the mouth of a god strike me as more evil, by far...than preferring peener.
-but you do you, it;s not as if you could do otherwise, right?
We can always do otherwise, because we choose, I can deceive myself and disbelieve in all the proofs of God and the light I See, and become one of you guys any moment.
But may God help me with patience to keep faith and increase me in his love through appreciating and remembering his favors.
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
June 5, 2018 at 12:18 pm
Yes, there's proof of lying. My daughter in law went through FUCKING TORTURE YOU FUCKING PIECE OF GARBAGE. And you know what? It didn't fucking change her. So you can shut the fuck up with all this stupid shit about how being gay is a 'sin'. Fuck off you insignificant maggot.
"Tradition" is just a word people use to make themselves feel better about being an asshole.
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
June 5, 2018 at 12:18 pm
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Can you choose to stop being the evil you accuse of others, Mystic?
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
June 5, 2018 at 12:20 pm
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Mystic has already demonstrated that he can't even control himself. I don't honestly know what point he's trying to make with all this choice business he keeps going on about.
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
June 5, 2018 at 12:22 pm
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(June 5, 2018 at 12:18 pm)Divinity Wrote: Yes, there's proof of lying. My daughter in law went through FUCKING TORTURE YOU FUCKING PIECE OF GARBAGE. And you know what? It didn't fucking change her. So you can shut the fuck up with all this stupid shit about how being gay is a 'sin'. Fuck off you insignificant maggot.
You can't force people to change beliefs or states through torture. I'm sorry what your daughter went through.
Still a sinful state, it's giving into deceptions of Iblis and his forces.
Some people call themselves former gays and at least claim they were gay and are no longer.
(June 5, 2018 at 12:18 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Can you choose to stop being the evil you accuse of others, Mystic?
Inshallah, I will change my evil ways. Yes I Can stop but no one said it's easy to do so.
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
June 5, 2018 at 12:24 pm
Looks like a big fat no, to me. You can;t choose to stop being evil. This from the enlightened reality traveler and demon whisperer who has a straight line to gods truth.
If you can;t do it, I can;t imagine that there;s any hope for anyone else.
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
June 5, 2018 at 12:26 pm
If being gay is a choice, then my daughter-in-law would have most CERTAINLY chosen not to be gay to avoid torture. Surely you get that, don't you? Yet she didn't.
All those 'former gays' are either fucking liars (not surprising given how much lying religious types do) or they're Bisexual or they've returned to the closet.
"Tradition" is just a word people use to make themselves feel better about being an asshole.
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
June 5, 2018 at 12:29 pm
(June 5, 2018 at 12:26 pm)Divinity Wrote: If being gay is a choice, then my daughter-in-law would have most CERTAINLY chosen not to be gay to avoid torture. Surely you get that, don't you? Yet she didn't.
All those 'former gays' are either fucking liars (not surprising given how much lying religious types do) or they're Bisexual or they've returned to the closet.
It wouldn't be impossible to change being gay to avoid torture, but very hard to do so. It's like if my favorite food is something, I can change that, but not on threat of torture.
It takes a understanding of the true nature of the self and what it means to human... and then struggle to change the impulses in beginning, open your idea to change, and you need a power to change from God and you have to believe it's wrong and their has to be a sense of guilt mixed with compassion for oneself as well.
This how all former gays explain their path at least from what I've read and as well have seen on youtube videos.
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