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Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
#11
RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
We're doing fine in England after religion has become mostly irrelevant. I think religion teaches people (especially as children) to rely on false promises and to stifle their critical thinking.
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#12
RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
I don't get why people need to have something or someone to pray/bow down to/worship etc. It's so degrading if you think about it. You believe in an unknown deity and you make that thing take priority over your own life. It's like you're saying you are not as good as an invisible sky daddy and you should assume the position of being down on your knees.
For what, exactly? Some promise of an afterlife that doesn't really offer any guarantee since it comes from a book written by men who were only sheep herders?
I am so fortunate that I don't subscribe to that nonsense. I can live my life knowing I'm not trying to please some made up character that I will never see. Fuck all that noise.
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#13
RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
(June 17, 2018 at 10:09 am)Joods Wrote: I don't get why people need to have something or someone to pray/bow down to/worship etc. It's so degrading if you think about it.  You believe in an unknown deity and you make that thing take priority over your own life. It's like you're saying you are not as  good as an invisible sky daddy and you should assume the position of being down on your knees.
For what, exactly? Some promise of an afterlife that doesn't really offer any guarantee since it comes from a book written by men who were only sheep herders?
I am so fortunate that I don't subscribe to that nonsense. I can live my life knowing I'm not trying to please some made up character that I will never see. Fuck all that noise.

We desire paradise only because the sustenance of God is closely tied to God, and because it's a higher place closer to him, and it's an endlessly journey to him.

If paradise was a place far from him and hell was a place close to him, I would choose the latter no matter what pain.

God is the Greatest, he is God, he is the One who is to be treasured above all.

You choose your god, I submit to the only true God.
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#14
RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
(June 17, 2018 at 10:09 am)Joods Wrote: I don't get why people need to have something or someone to pray/bow down to/worship etc. It's so degrading if you think about it.  You believe in an unknown deity and you make that thing take priority over your own life. It's like you're saying you are not as  good as an invisible sky daddy and you should assume the position of being down on your knees.
For what, exactly? Some promise of an afterlife that doesn't really offer any guarantee since it comes from a book written by men who were only sheep herders?
I am so fortunate that I don't subscribe to that nonsense. I can live my life knowing I'm not trying to please some made up character that I will never see. Fuck all that noise.

It's a tool. It gives comfort, gives a way to explain things, even if it's inaccurate, and is a way for the powerful to control the masses. That's why it has endure long past its point of being obsolete.
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RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
(June 17, 2018 at 10:15 am)Chad32 Wrote:
(June 17, 2018 at 10:09 am)Joods Wrote: I don't get why people need to have something or someone to pray/bow down to/worship etc. It's so degrading if you think about it.  You believe in an unknown deity and you make that thing take priority over your own life. It's like you're saying you are not as  good as an invisible sky daddy and you should assume the position of being down on your knees.
For what, exactly? Some promise of an afterlife that doesn't really offer any guarantee since it comes from a book written by men who were only sheep herders?
I am so fortunate that I don't subscribe to that nonsense. I can live my life knowing I'm not trying to please some made up character that I will never see. Fuck all that noise.

It's a tool. It gives comfort, gives a way to explain things, even if it's inaccurate, and is a way for the powerful to control the masses. That's why it has endure long past its point of being obsolete.

It is a tool, and not the purpose, it's a tool to drive us to God and justice.

And I'd rather be controlled by the God, the True Master, and not the likes of Trump and the silly leaders people choose.
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#16
RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_Gods
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#17
RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
Given that I don't have a god, I don't have to choose between heaven and hell. As for paradise - that is what you make of it. There is no afterlife. None has ever been proven.
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#18
RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
Christians have been creating a new religion for centuries now.  It gets lumped in with the abrahamics because of it;s parentage more than any theological equality.  

Soon enough, hot buddy jesus wont even require a reference to desert god.
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RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
(June 17, 2018 at 10:09 am)Joods Wrote: I don't get why people need to have something or someone to pray/bow down to/worship etc. It's so degrading if you think about it.  You believe in an unknown deity and you make that thing take priority over your own life. It's like you're saying you are not as  good as an invisible sky daddy and you should assume the position of being down on your knees.
For what, exactly? Some promise of an afterlife that doesn't really offer any guarantee since it comes from a book written by men who were only sheep herders?
I am so fortunate that I don't subscribe to that nonsense. I can live my life knowing I'm not trying to please some made up character that I will never see. Fuck all that noise.
Lets just ignore prayer for now. I am saying that the ideal that if you do bad in life that is gonna haunt you. And that some believe life has a purpose after you die. Prayer is just a spiritual aspect of that that has gotten into a requirement in those religions. What i mean is the older you get, the more the idea that if you dont worship this god, you are going to hell. The threat is there, what i suggest is something that can shatter that old view of tensions of the past with more obvious common sense of how we see humans as.
Quote:Soooooo basically you wanna start another cult.
Sorta like that.
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RE: Create a new monotheistic religion instead of clinging to the past of Abraham
(June 17, 2018 at 10:17 am)Joods Wrote: Given that I don't have a god, I don't have to choose between heaven and hell. As for paradise - that is what you make of it.  There is no afterlife. None has ever been proven.

You don't believe in supernatural magical type god, but you value somethings, and god is always been a battle of terminology of the height and peak of value, polytheists despite claiming they believed Creator was higher, use the word for lesser beings because they want to equate and down play the unique position of God as far as valuing goes and loving goes and not to take the notion that we value ourselves as much or more then God seriously.

Whatever is at the peak at the value, and all things close to that, is your god(s).

It never meant what you say it meant, or else, people would not have attributed born creatures the position of divinity.

What is your God? You see, you feel ashamed already with the notion you have a god other then the Absolute being. That is because your nature is upon inclining to the oneness of God.

(June 17, 2018 at 10:17 am)purplepurpose Wrote: http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_Gods

That's good lore for a game, also happens to resemble reality a lot.
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