Who killed Jesus?

[downbeatplumb]

His dad!!

Who was also a ghost.

Or was it old man Jenkins who runs the fair.....

[The Valkyrie]

His dad!!

Who was also a ghost.

Or was it old man Jenkins who runs the fair.....

And would he have got away with it if it weren’t for those meddling kids?

[SteveII]

LOL, a heretic! That would presuppose that you knew the beliefs of Christianity in the first place to compare them to my beliefs.  

You have a choice: 1) continue on as you have been and prove that you really are happy with your intellectually-stunted, straw-man errecting, red herring throwing, echo chamber, approval seeking, angry atheist shtick or 2) admit the truth--that you really don't understand the things you wish to criticize and try to lean something before spouting off nonsense.  I don't care which.

I heard something similar from a teenaged Harry Potter fan.

BTW, you would have been a Christian, if you knew the beliefs of Christianity yourself. 
Maybe you should finally start praying sincerely to God?

LOL. Okay, I take back my first post. I figured you out. Good luck with your choice. 

Oh well, the ranks continue to swell. I blame parents for not getting involved in their children's education. Does anyone else worry about millennials taking over someday?

[vulcanlogician]

I'm pretty sure most True Christians subscribe to this:

I never got how certain Christians hold the crucifixion against the Jews....

First of all, the belief that "the Jews killed Christ" is a fairly ambiguous one, and in some roundabout fashion seems to implicate all Jews (even those living in modern times) in the crime. Methinks it's just justification for one's desire to alienate an out-group.

Second, the whole thing was supposedly orchestrated by celestial forces. The "lamb's blood" needed to be shed for the new and everlasting covenant, right? It's really stupid to fault Jews for their participation in something that was divinely ordained. According to the Gospels, when Peter suggested to Jesus that he try to avoid being crucified, Jesus called him "Satan." WTF, people! If a Jew participates in the crucifixion he's called a "Christ killer" and if he tries to stop it, he's "Satan." Damned if you do, damned if you don't...

[The Grand Nudger]

I never got how certain Christians hold the crucifixion against the Jews....

-romanization.  It's actually pretty simple.  There was a practical need, at the time, to rehabilitate proto christendom in the eyes of a major power and it's citizens.

[SteveII]

I'm pretty sure most True Christians subscribe to this:

I never got how certain Christians hold the crucifixion against the Jews....

First of all, the belief that "the Jews killed Christ" is a fairly ambiguous one, and in some roundabout fashion seems to implicate all Jews (even those living in modern times) in the crime. Methinks it's just justification for one's desire to alienate an out-group.

Second, the whole thing was supposedly orchestrated by celestial forces. The "lamb's blood" needed to be shed for the new and everlasting covenant, right? It's really stupid to fault Jews for their participation in something that was divinely ordained. According to the Gospels, when Peter suggested to Jesus that he try to avoid being crucified, Jesus called him "Satan." WTF, people! If a Jew participates in the crucifixion he's called a "Christ killer" and if he tries to stop it, he's "Satan." Damned if you do, damned if you don't...

You would have to be severely lacking even a clue about theology to blame the Jews.

[The Valkyrie]

It was suicide by Roman.

Something that was common in those days but has lost its appeal in recent centuries.

No one truly understands why?

[Crossless2.0]

I never got how certain Christians hold the crucifixion against the Jews....

-romanization.  It's actually pretty simple.  There was a practical need, at the time, to rehabilitate proto christendom in the eyes of a major power and it's citizens.  

Exactly. The movement, which had become a largely Gentile movement, needed to distance itself from the Jews, who had openly rebelled against Rome. That's how we end up with Pilate supposedly conflicted about sending a royal pretender to the cross, washing his hands of responsibility, Jews baying at him for Jesus' crucifixion, etc.

[The Grand Nudger]

I never got how certain Christians hold the crucifixion against the Jews....

First of all, the belief that "the Jews killed Christ" is a fairly ambiguous one, and in some roundabout fashion seems to implicate all Jews (even those living in modern times) in the crime. Methinks it's just justification for one's desire to alienate an out-group.

Second, the whole thing was supposedly orchestrated by celestial forces. The "lamb's blood" needed to be shed for the new and everlasting covenant, right? It's really stupid to fault Jews for their participation in something that was divinely ordained. According to the Gospels, when Peter suggested to Jesus that he try to avoid being crucified, Jesus called him "Satan." WTF, people! If a Jew participates in the crucifixion he's called a "Christ killer" and if he tries to stop it, he's "Satan." Damned if you do, damned if you don't...

You would have to be severely lacking even a clue about theology to blame the Jews.

That's interesting.....it appears that early christers must have been -incredibly- clueless, then.

[vorlon13]

His dad!!

Well . . .

Scripture is very clear Holy Ghost went unto Virgin Mary's pubescent po-po and did the spermitization, so Holy Ghost is Jesus' daddy.

Ain't the Trinity weird and wonderful ??

And even True Believers out running around EXPLAINING the Trinity don't get it right either.