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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 13, 2018 at 5:52 am
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I feel like it's silly to reiterate this..but..he's not actually speaking as a renowned researcher or psychologist when he's railing about cryptomarxist plots and how boys will be boys. He's speaking as a right wing provocateur. That's not forthright discussion..it's boilerplate wedge shit. That's what he's renowned for. The service he offers is to legitimize a very specific type of anxiety, and in that..he couldn't have come along at a better time..since the fate of nations was being decided by those same fears.
The whole "greatest canadian intellectual" bit was part of a press blitz for a book..........
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 13, 2018 at 6:31 am
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 13, 2018 at 6:38 am
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(August 13, 2018 at 5:52 am)Khemikal Wrote: I feel like it's silly to reiterate this..but..he's not actually speaking as a renowned researcher or psychologist when he's railing about cryptomarxist plots and how boys will be boys. He's speaking as a right wing provocateur. That's not forthright discussion..it's boilerplate wedge shit. That's what he's renowned for. The service he offers is to legitimize a very specific type of anxiety, and in that..he couldn't have come along at a better time..since the fate of nations was being decided by those same fears.
The whole "greatest canadian intellectual" bit was part of a press blitz for a book.......... The hilarity is him trying the tired because Sweden has gender equality laws the wage gap isn't about sex .
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 13, 2018 at 9:02 am
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(August 12, 2018 at 11:33 pm)Kit Wrote: I haven't been keeping up. I don't even know what Tiz is supposed to be positively claiming.
Someone catch me up real quick.
I've no idea what these two twats are raving about, and I've read the whole thing.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 13, 2018 at 9:06 am
(August 13, 2018 at 6:38 am)Tizheruk Wrote: (August 13, 2018 at 5:52 am)Khemikal Wrote: I feel like it's silly to reiterate this..but..he's not actually speaking as a renowned researcher or psychologist when he's railing about cryptomarxist plots and how boys will be boys. He's speaking as a right wing provocateur. That's not forthright discussion..it's boilerplate wedge shit. That's what he's renowned for. The service he offers is to legitimize a very specific type of anxiety, and in that..he couldn't have come along at a better time..since the fate of nations was being decided by those same fears.
The whole "greatest canadian intellectual" bit was part of a press blitz for a book.......... The hilarity is him trying the tired because Sweden has gender equality laws the wage gap isn't about sex .
He claims gender is a factor, not THE factor, but a factor.
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 13, 2018 at 9:21 am
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(August 13, 2018 at 9:06 am)SaStrike Wrote: (August 13, 2018 at 6:38 am)Tizheruk Wrote: The hilarity is him trying the tired because Sweden has gender equality laws the wage gap isn't about sex .
He claims gender is a factor, not THE factor, but a factor. That's what i said he;s denying that it's about sex . Thus denying it's THE factor and unfortunately Sweden and a few other pro equality don't make his case.Nor does appealing to the stem success in some places in the middle east .
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 13, 2018 at 10:52 am
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Learn about correlation.
It's clear that women are paid less. It's not clear the exact degree to which they are paid less because they are women.
There are several things about women, taken as a population, that make them different than men-- personality traits (i.e. kindness, aggression, etc.), reproductive roles and timing, different interests, and so on.
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Unless sexist bosses are imposing reproduction on the mothers, then the financial hit is mainly coming because women tend to care for their babies (no duh), and men tend to carry on with their carries after their offspring are born.
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 13, 2018 at 10:58 am
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Quote:Learn about correlation.
I'm well aware of correlation now for causation
Quote:It's clear that women are paid less. It's not clear the exact degree to which they are paid less because they are women.
It's pretty clear when you stop making excuses
Quote:There are several things about women, taken as a population, that make them different than men-- personality traits (i.e. kindness, aggression, etc.), reproductive roles and timing, different interests, and so on.
All of which begs the question if they are inherent traits or taught cultural traits? are they reproduction roles as a culture or as inherent to sex? are those interests that are natural or imposed ?and so on . None of this makes his case nor refutes an underlying cultural idea's about them being women as the source of the pay gap .
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 13, 2018 at 1:41 pm
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If Peterson actually believes the stuff he writes about women in this book, he's beyond sexist and more into delusional projections. I suspect at least some of it is part of the game. Finding out what he really thinks, about anything, is almost impossible due to the amount of caveats he uses. This may be the "new him" though, the one that wants to maximize his audience by not excluding anyone.
Except women that is. If a single woman finds this book anything other than hugely patronizing and misinformed, I'd be very surprised. It's clearly aimed at males only, and this makes me suspect it's not all an act.
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 13, 2018 at 1:54 pm
(August 13, 2018 at 1:41 pm)robvalue Wrote: If Peterson actually believes the stuff he writes about women in this book, he's beyond sexist and more into delusional projections. I suspect at least some of it is part of the game. Finding out what he really thinks, about anything, is almost impossible due to the amount of caveats he uses. This may be the "new him" though, the one that wants to maximize his audience by not excluding anyone.
Except women that is. If a single woman finds this book anything other than hugely patronizing and misinformed, I'd be very surprised. It's clearly aimed at males only, and this makes me suspect it's not all an act. But Rob watch a billion of his interviews and you'll understand you super ultra secrets 
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