3 simple points to end the discussion with any atheist

[Brian37]

Isn't it funny how this designer always turns out to be a character in the local religious book? What are the odds of that.

I forgot which ancient philosopher said it, "If horses had gods they would look like horses."

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

After seeing the picture of some local fauna I wish I could link the Monty Python song; "All things dull and ugly. "

[Aliza]

1-Ask about the design of the universe: this question is very embarrassing to atheists, because the universe is full of signs. From the human body to mathematics, to the value of PI, the universe seems like a pattern designed by the same entity.

2-Open up the topic of time: human life is timed. Literally there is a cosmic clock, and the sun gives the time for earth. Why do the odds stack up in this life?

3-Why do we have consciousness?

Can you demonstrate whether or not G-d needs us to believe in him? If the universe is indeed designed, then we're living in a universe that seems to fill our needs and be completely automated. Seems to me that the things we need (air, food, resources) are evident and abundant. The more obscure like pi, biology, or the formula for a spiral is accessible with hard work, but this is not essential knowledge to have to live in this universe. Then there's G-d. G-d completely obscures himself. Life is in no way dependent on knowing or understanding him and as far as we can tell, he's left us no trail to find him or understand him. Feeling impressed over how many times spirals show up with the exact same formula or how impressed we are at the infinite number of decimal places that follow in pi is not proof of G-d's existence. Subjective feelings of elation when you read your holy book is also not proof; the human species has sworn by the authenticity of too many holy books for that to be considered as evidence.

If we needed G-d, G-d would be very available. If G-d wanted to be found, there would be some evidence that we could find because those are the rules of the universe that, G-d is said to have established; the things you need are evident.

Who knows! Maybe we'll find G-d in a lab. Keep testing, my friend.

[Angrboda]

1-Ask about the design of the universe: this question is very embarrassing to atheists, because the universe is full of signs. From the human body to mathematics, to the value of PI, the universe seems like a pattern designed by the same entity.

I can easily see that a pencil is bent if I stick the end in some water, that doesn't mean it's actually bent. Even if the appearance of design were compelling, it's not in and of itself sufficient argument that it is designed. This argument might stall a good number of atheists, but for those whom it doesn't, it will simply show you up to be the idiot in the room. Most atheists will likely jump to that conclusion from your simply making the argument in the way you do. That may indeed silence the atheist, but not in a good way. Having your opponent conclude you are a useless idiot and your beliefs stupid is not how you want to end discussion.

2-Open up the topic of time: human life is timed. Literally there is a cosmic clock, and the sun gives the time for earth. Why do the odds stack up in this life?

What? I don't even understand your point here. If other atheists like me then this will indeed likely end discussion with them looking at you with confused stares. If this is a reference to the anxiety some people feel when faced with their own mortality, that's hardly a specifically atheist problem. I don't know offhand how many atheists are actually troubled by their mortality, but I suspect it's less than you think. Regardless, this is not likely to shut up an atheist as they are likely to turn the conversation back upon you and ask you to give evidence that you are not similarly limited.

3-Why do we have consciousness?

Actually, this is another topic which is likely to spur the atheist into action rather than silence them. On the other hand, it does pretty much tie the theist's hands as he is inevitably reduced to repeating, "Hurr durr, God!"

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Some of our ancestors (chimps) remained unconscious. why did we grew brains?

What on earth makes you think that chimpanzees lack consciousness? You're getting funnier and funnier by the minute. You, personally, will silence most atheists with any argument as they will conclude that you are a hopeless crackpot and simply move on. Not to mention that you're undermining your own point by implying that growing brains had something to do with consciousness. Remember. The correct response is, "Hurr durr, God!"

[Minimalist]

1-Ask about the design of the universe: this question is very embarrassing to atheists, because the universe is full of signs. From the human body to mathematics, to the value of PI, the universe seems like a pattern designed by the same entity.

2-Open up the topic of time: human life is timed. Literally there is a cosmic clock, and the sun gives the time for earth. Why do the odds stack up in this life?

3-Why do we have consciousness?

Atlas, you are getting as stupid as MK, lately.  WTF is wrong with you, son.

[The Grand Nudger]

Islam.

[FatAndFaithless]

Shockingly I remain unconvinced.

[Angrboda]

Isn't it funny how this designer always turns out to be a character in the local religious book? What are the odds of that.

[Silver]

Shockingly I remain unconvinced.

I'm not shocked that you were not convinced.  Therefore, how does that word fit?

[robvalue]

If a theist can tell me what a non-designed universe would be like, and how they know that, it would give the argument some validity.