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Shooting in Southern California
#71
RE: Shooting in Southern California
Siri Gibberish translator, "Our laws are so tough we have had had 307 mass shootings in 311 days."

Tell us how safe we are please. Only a delusional nut thinks we don't have a firearm violence problem. Only a delusional nut thinks arm everyone is working.

And fuck what doctors think, I am sure they love seeing bullet holes in bodies in the E.R. every day.

If our laws were working so well, if our flooded market made us safer, we would not have the amount of firearm violence we do.
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#72
RE: Shooting in Southern California
(November 9, 2018 at 7:12 am)Brian37 Wrote: Siri Gibberish translator, "Our laws are so tough we have had had 307 mass shootings in 311 days."

Tell us how safe we are please. Only a delusional nut thinks we don't have a firearm violence problem. Only a delusional nut thinks arm everyone is working.

And fuck what doctors think, I am sure they love seeing bullet holes in bodies in the E.R. every day.

If our laws were working so well, if our flooded market made us safer, we would not have the amount of firearm violence we do.
Cite those 307 shootings.


You' d think that would be headlines.

My guess - Nancy Pelosi is talking out her ass again, and you call it gospel.

Mother Jones - which as been tracking mass shootings since 1982, says it' s 11 for 2018.


https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local...-612754479
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#73
RE: Shooting in Southern California
(November 9, 2018 at 8:56 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(November 9, 2018 at 7:12 am)Brian37 Wrote: Siri Gibberish translator, "Our laws are so tough we have had had 307 mass shootings in 311 days."

Tell us how safe we are please. Only a delusional nut thinks we don't have a firearm violence problem. Only a delusional nut thinks arm everyone is working.

And fuck what doctors think, I am sure they love seeing bullet holes in bodies in the E.R. every day.

If our laws were working so well, if our flooded market made us safer, we would not have the amount of firearm violence we do.
Cite those 307 shootings.

You' d think that would be headlines.
...........it is....?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=300+mass+shootings%3F

-and all of those headlines, will lead you here for a source.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/repor...s-shooting


Quote:My guess - Nancy Pelosi is talking out her ass again, and you call it gospel.

Mother Jones - which as been tracking mass shootings since 1982, says it' s 11 for 2018.


https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local...-612754479
What you'll notice..if you read your own link, is that it has nothing to do with nancy pelosi, the number above -is- in the headlines, lol....and that the incidents to which mother jones is referring all require four or more people being killed per the doj..though they go lower, and include any incident in which people were killed (but none with no fatalies, no matter how many people were shot).  Whereas gunviolence dot org considers any time a bunch of people get shot..even if they don't die, a mass shooting. Mother Jones is not in any way claiming that gun violence dot orgs list is incorrect, that all of those people didn't get shot, lol. How could they, the list is exhaustively sourced.

What do you think, when a mass of people get shot..if fewer than four die..is it not a mass shooting?

(what is it with you lot and nancy pelosi...I don't like to be a hater, but that seems like an odd target for an unhealthy obsession..she's kinda long in the tooth, right? - I really don't get it, a lucid criticism of the lefts response to gun violence is fucking baked in.....but rather than run with that.......nancy! boo!.....?)
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#74
RE: Shooting in Southern California
GFY it just happened again here in my state. Hopefully no dead, but still. AND AGAIN AT A SCHOOL.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/...d10170e7ce

Arm more doesn't fucking work. Our flooded market is not working.
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#75
RE: Shooting in Southern California
Best mass shooting tracker database that I've found:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...edit#gid=0
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#76
RE: Shooting in Southern California
Except that it's not.  Mother Jones is playing it safe.  Which is understandable, but it's still what they're doing.  

Take a look at gun violences list.  Youll find all of mother jones stuff included....what you'll notice, is all that mother jones omits....and it;s alot. Have there been that many mass shootings? Yes. Demonstrably, inarguably.. yes. Most did not lead to fatalities, or led to too few fatalities (muddle that one over for a minute)..because we're getting pretty damned good at trauma related to gunshot wounds (who knows why...lol Wink )
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#77
RE: Shooting in Southern California
(November 9, 2018 at 9:16 am)Khemikal Wrote: Except that it's not.  Mother Jones is playing it safe.  Which is understandable, but it's still what they're doing.  

Take a look at gun violences list.  Youll find all of mother jones stuff included....what you'll notice, is all that mother jones omits....and it;s alot.  Have there been that many mass shootings?  Yes.  Demonstrably, inarguably.. yes.  Most did not lead to fatalities, or led to too few fatalities (muddle that one over for a minute)..because we're getting pretty damned good at trauma related to gunshot wounds (who knows why...lol Wink   )

Sorry, ya lost me. What's it missing? Is there a more detailed mass shooting database?
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#78
RE: Shooting in Southern California
Yes.  It's linked above.  Take a look. There have been more mass shootings in 2018 alone than all of the mass shootings tracked by mother jones since 1982.

Mother jones isn't tracking mass shootings..they're tracking high media profile mass shootings.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#79
RE: Shooting in Southern California
I think mass shootings are an overblown problem. I don't mean they aren't a tragedy. Just that they get so much more media time than they warrent. Partly because most of the victims and shooters are white.

If you are concerned about gun violence, 2/3rds of that, 20,000 people are suicides. 2017 had 281 victims off mass shootings. So a little more than 1% the number of suicides by firearm alone.

Where is the media coverage for that? Why does nobody prioritize when it comes to gun violence? Instead they focus on anamoly events and go 'this is the problem we need to give the most attention to' when it is a tiny sliver.
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#80
RE: Shooting in Southern California
-we've been averaging very nearly a mass shooting a day for years now. Most of the victims of mass shootings with high media profile are white. This is not true of mass shootings as a whole. None of the people tracked in that database were suicides. They specifically excluded them.

Quote:22,000 Annual Suicides not included on Daily Summary Ledger
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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