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RE: My proofs for Islam
November 17, 2018 at 3:01 pm
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(November 17, 2018 at 2:43 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: We are a perception, an living idea, it's not like a physical thing at all, it requires perception to exist.
Unsupported assertion. Can’t quote book for support because the book is the claim, not the evidence. If you do it, then I can too.
Bible passage
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Therefore Yahweh exists. I sure wish you’d start reflecting on my book correctly. I hate to see you in such denial.
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RE: My proofs for Islam
November 17, 2018 at 3:02 pm
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Where does a psychological trait physical exist? I'm sorry it's not a bare assertion, at most, you can say the perception has physical backing up in the physical world in the brain as structures that form the perception. But psychological traits are not physical by definition and the perception is not physical.
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RE: My proofs for Islam
November 17, 2018 at 3:04 pm
Launching an argument from ignorance in a bid to rescue a non sequitur. There is no requirement that I answer any of your questions about the things you don't know. You'll have to make your own case.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: My proofs for Islam
November 17, 2018 at 3:06 pm
If its our brain that perceives it with physical backing, then we are the perceivers and judges, but we know we aren't perfect judges to who we are nor are the perfect measurers to all actions we've done, hence we would be an illusion in that case. So if neither us or brain can maintain and perceive who we are, then what can?
It's actually only one candidate that can truly know us, and that is God, the Aware and seeing with respect to his servants.
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RE: My proofs for Islam
November 17, 2018 at 3:10 pm
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(November 17, 2018 at 3:06 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If its our brain that perceives it with physical backing, then we are the perceivers and judges, but we know we aren't perfect judges to who we are nor are the perfect measurers to all actions we've done, hence we would be an illusion in that case. So if neither us or brain can maintain and perceive who we are, then what can? Then so what, we aren't perfect judges and there is no perfect judge. Other than your preference for some other state of affairs..what could you possibly hope to demonstrate by this?
Quote:It's actually only one candidate that can truly know us, and that is God, the Aware and seeing with respect to his servants.
So? See above.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: My proofs for Islam
November 17, 2018 at 3:13 pm
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That we would be an illusion, and we aren't an illusion, hence God exists and sees us exactly as we are.
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RE: My proofs for Islam
November 17, 2018 at 3:16 pm
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More bare assertion..and yet again no explanation other than your preference for one state of affairs over another as to why you insist on such and such.
So what if no one sees us as we are? So what if there's no perfect judge? So what if we are meaningfully illusory?
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RE: My proofs for Islam
November 17, 2018 at 3:19 pm
If we are an illusion, there is no estimating to who we are, since there is no standard or reality there, it's all chaotic and meaningless, rather we just make up who we are with no reality. No human believes they are a meaningless valueless illusion.
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RE: My proofs for Islam
November 17, 2018 at 3:21 pm
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(November 17, 2018 at 3:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If we are an illusion, there is no estimating to who we are, since there is no standard or reality there, it's all chaotic and meaningless, rather we just make up who we are with no reality. No human believes they are a meaningless valueless illusion.
So what... yet again. If there is no way of estimating who we are...and this is just another bare assertion.... then there is no way of estimating who we are.
You are still doing nothing more than indicating your preference for one state of affairs over another. Or, if you prefer, registering your displeasure over a perceived state of affairs.
It's not even a cognitive position, lol..it's an emotivist cry of despair. I'm sorry that the universe is not as you wish it would be...what else is there to say?
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RE: My proofs for Islam
November 17, 2018 at 3:21 pm
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And with us truly known, we then strive to bring our judgement in tune with the vision of God. There is then estimating and meaningful estimating.
(November 17, 2018 at 3:21 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: (November 17, 2018 at 3:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If we are an illusion, there is no estimating to who we are, since there is no standard or reality there, it's all chaotic and meaningless, rather we just make up who we are with no reality. No human believes they are a meaningless valueless illusion.
So what...yet again. If there is no way of estimating who we are...and this is just another bare assertion....then there is no way of estimating who we are.
You are still doing nothing more than indicating your preference for one state of affairs over another.
I not only prefer humans to have meaningful real value, I know they do. And not only that, but their actions all have meaningful value, be it positive or negative.
You have a good day, I will be back tomorrow.
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