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RE: Damned STUPID Priest yesterday . . .
December 3, 2018 at 4:07 pm
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(December 3, 2018 at 1:16 pm)Cherub786 Wrote: That was an inside job nothing to do with Religion
But this image below illustrates the horrors of godless atheism:
Cambodia was caused by a mixture of catholicism and buddhism. Next!
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RE: Damned STUPID Priest yesterday . . .
December 3, 2018 at 4:14 pm
(December 3, 2018 at 4:07 pm)Wololo Wrote: Cambodia was caused by a mixture of catholicism and buddhism. Next!
No, it was caused by ultra-Maoism, materialist collectivism, and atheism
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RE: Damned STUPID Priest yesterday . . .
December 3, 2018 at 4:20 pm
(December 3, 2018 at 4:14 pm)Cherub786 Wrote: (December 3, 2018 at 4:07 pm)Wololo Wrote: Cambodia was caused by a mixture of catholicism and buddhism. Next!
No, it was caused by ultra-Maoism, materialist collectivism, and atheism
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RE: Damned STUPID Priest yesterday . . .
December 3, 2018 at 4:21 pm
(December 3, 2018 at 4:05 pm)Cherub786 Wrote: (December 3, 2018 at 3:52 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Every single time you launch into one of these "in the name of atheism" bits it's just more of the same.
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Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge were not just atheists incidentally. They were ardent atheists and they promoted atheism and hated religion, that was the primary motivation for their repression of religious forces.
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RE: Damned STUPID Priest yesterday . . .
December 3, 2018 at 4:23 pm
The new Khmer Rouge government under Pol Pot sought to systematically obliterate Buddhism from Cambodian society.
Destruction of Buddhism by the Khmer Rouge
In 1979, after the Pol Pot government had been forced out of Phnom Penh and the new government of Heng Samrin had assumed power, there were probably fewer than 100 Khmer monks left, the vast majority of whom were living in exile in Vietnam. The Khmer Rouge declared Buddhism to be a "reactionary religion" and denied its adherents even the theoretical rights accorded to other religions in the constitution. In 1978, Yun Yat, minister of culture in the Khmer Rouge regime, told Yugoslav journalists that "Buddhism is dead, and the ground has been cleared for the foundations of a new revolutionary culture." If the religion was dead, that is because the Khmer Rouge had killed it. An estimate made in 1980 showed that five out of every eight monks had been executed during the Pol Pot regime; those monks and novices who were not killed were forced to disrobe, Temple-monasteries were turned into storage centers, prisons, even extermination camps. Images of the Buddha were often decapitated, desecrated in other ways, or buried.
Source: https://www.culturalsurvival.org/publica...n-cambodia
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RE: Damned STUPID Priest yesterday . . .
December 3, 2018 at 4:27 pm
(December 3, 2018 at 4:23 pm)Cherub786 Wrote: The new Khmer Rouge government under Pol Pot sought to systematically obliterate Buddhism from Cambodian society.
Destruction of Buddhism by the Khmer Rouge
In 1979, after the Pol Pot government had been forced out of Phnom Penh and the new government of Heng Samrin had assumed power, there were probably fewer than 100 Khmer monks left, the vast majority of whom were living in exile in Vietnam. The Khmer Rouge declared Buddhism to be a "reactionary religion" and denied its adherents even the theoretical rights accorded to other religions in the constitution. In 1978, Yun Yat, minister of culture in the Khmer Rouge regime, told Yugoslav journalists that "Buddhism is dead, and the ground has been cleared for the foundations of a new revolutionary culture." If the religion was dead, that is because the Khmer Rouge had killed it. An estimate made in 1980 showed that five out of every eight monks had been executed during the Pol Pot regime; those monks and novices who were not killed were forced to disrobe, Temple-monasteries were turned into storage centers, prisons, even extermination camps. Images of the Buddha were often decapitated, desecrated in other ways, or buried.
Source: https://www.culturalsurvival.org/publica...n-cambodia
If this is a response to my request for a citation, I'll note that it doesn't support either horn of your claim that the acts of the Khmer Rouge were motivated by atheism or a desire to promote atheism, or that they were motivated by a hatred of religion.
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RE: Damned STUPID Priest yesterday . . .
December 3, 2018 at 4:27 pm
I see atheism doesn't appear one time in that snippet, or the entire article.
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RE: Damned STUPID Priest yesterday . . .
December 3, 2018 at 4:31 pm
"Democratic Kampuchea was officially an atheist state, and the persecution of religion by the Khmer Rouge was matched in severity only by the persecution of religion in the communist states of Albania and North Korea, so there were not any direct historical continuities of Buddhism into the Democratic Kampuchea era."
Wessinger, Catherine (2000). Millennialism, Persecution, and Violence: Historical Cases. Syracuse University Press. p. 282. ISBN 9780815628095.
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RE: Damned STUPID Priest yesterday . . .
December 3, 2018 at 4:38 pm
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I think that you should do a little research. You'll find that Solath Sar was super into buddhism, and that buddhism (as the state religion, no less) was the ground from which the khmer rouge originally sprang.
It was political expediency and concerns of legitimacy that eventually put the apparatus on blast, combined with drumming up the antipathies held by any poor people in which a particular social strata had accumulated immense wealth for itself relative to the rest of the proles. They never could really get rid of their own buddhist trappings though, because they worked so well to manipulate those same proles, as they always had in the preceding centuries.
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RE: Damned STUPID Priest yesterday . . .
December 3, 2018 at 4:41 pm
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(December 3, 2018 at 4:31 pm)Cherub786 Wrote: "Democratic Kampuchea was officially an atheist state, and the persecution of religion by the Khmer Rouge was matched in severity only by the persecution of religion in the communist states of Albania and North Korea, so there were not any direct historical continuities of Buddhism into the Democratic Kampuchea era."
Wessinger, Catherine (2000). Millennialism, Persecution, and Violence: Historical Cases. Syracuse University Press. p. 282. ISBN 9780815628095.
So, not answering the response to the original link you posted, instead quoting from a book.
Also, the Holocaust was at least partially religious in origin, as were the MANY pogroms throughout history against the Jews.
Hitler stated as much in his own book. And before you claim that Hitler was an atheist, even if that's true, many of his followers were Catholic.
And let's not play the No True Scotsman falkacy.
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