Another Gun Thread

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I am against murder.  I am a Christian.  I do not dream up ways of murdering people.  Just because I said a bullet is lethal does not mean I dream up ways of murdering someone.

Obviously you're not a historian.

[CDF47]

I am against murder.  I am a Christian.  I do not dream up ways of murdering people.  Just because I said a bullet is lethal does not mean I dream up ways of murdering someone.

Obviously you're not a historian.

I am talking about myself personally.  Not talking about history.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

The 2nd amendment should never change.  It was not intended to.  It is prevent tyranny primarily.

Boru

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Obviously you're not a historian.

I am talking about myself personally.  Not talking about history.

You implied that you were against murder and didn't dream up ways of killing people because you are a christian. LOL

[Jackie]

[Drich]

A 22 long rifle is a lethal weapon. I've seen many 1000 lbs steer dropped with a single headshot.


I don' t give a shit WHAT ammo you stick in a 9mm. Unless you use poison on the bullet - It's still going to be outclassed by anything with a larger case capacity.
It's always going to be a little bullet.

If you believe otherwise- you don't understand physics and you believe advertising hype.

I'm calling shenanigans on the bulless ball story. I saw one shot point blank square between the eyes and it just blinked and jerked his head back, and went nuts.. later it fell over and started crazy seizure convulsions.

then if a 9mm is always out classed, then how can a smaller than a pea .22 or 2.24mm kill a full sized bull instantly?

9mm has penatrating power a slower moving .45 doesn't. I had this old car we use to shoot the 9mm went all the way through while the 45 usally made pimples on the way out

[Jackie]

A 22 long rifle is a lethal weapon. I've seen many 1000 lbs steer dropped with a single headshot.


I don' t give a shit WHAT ammo you stick in a 9mm. Unless you use poison on the bullet - It's still going to be outclassed by anything with a larger case capacity.
It's always going to be a little bullet.

If you believe otherwise- you don't understand physics and you believe advertising hype.

I'm calling shenanigans on the bulless ball story. I saw one shot point blank square between the eyes and it just blinked and jerked his head back, and went nuts.. later it fell over and started crazy seizure convulsions.

then if a 9mm is always out classed, then how can a smaller than a pea .22 or 2.24mm kill a full sized bull instantly?

9mm has penatrating power a slower moving .45 doesn't. I had this old car we use to shoot the 9mm went all the way through while the 45 usally made pimples on the way out

There is also a difference between billiards and bumper pool. But neither game, as related as they are, cause 36,000 firearm deaths per year.

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I promise you CD, if it came to a civil war, I personally will NOT raise a firearm to you. If your bullshit worship of an object leads you to shoot and kill me, the universe would still continue, as it has for 13.8  billion years. And the earth for 4 billion years and 5 mass extinctions.

But make no mistake about it, do not confuse my non violence for silence. "Out of my cold dead hands" is bullshit lack of pragmatism, and purely tribal emotionalism. I cannot speak for other atheists here. But I do speak for myself.

Weapons do not solve problems long term, but only short term. Humanity in the scope of centuries have to grapple with the fact we only have one planet to live on and conquest is only temporary.

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YES IT DOES MATTER MORON!

Nadar didn't tell car companies their products sucked because he wanted to hurt business owners. He told them their products sucked because they did. And funny that, despite all that kicking and screaming the auto industry managed to learn to improve their products and still make money.

And quoting an firearm apology website to me is no fucking different than a Muslim apology website.

The founders also had no way of knowing how technology would change. Your bullshit logic would be insisting on running cell phone technology off of rotary phone technology.

If laws were never intended to be updated, we'd also still own slaves, and women would still not be able to vote.

The 2nd amendment should never change.  It was not intended to.  It is prevent tyranny primarily.

STOP BEING HALF ASS'D JACKASS! 

If our laws were never subject to review or change, then how is it women can vote and segregation ended?

THE FOUNDERS had no way of knowing we'd go from muskets to Ar-15s. If you are so fucking stupid to blindly support that logic, what if my liberal side had a majority control of all military and civilian weapons?

If you love Ar-15s so much DUMBASS, knowing I don't agree with you, what if I built a group of "leftists" who used Ar-15s to threaten you?

[onlinebiker]

Bullets that explode have explosives in them.

Bullets that fragment on impact are frangible rounds.


They are NOT more deadly in a low power round like 9mm - which are generally subsonic. ( under the right conditions you can actually see as 9mm bullet in flight.)

Frangibles are to prevent over- penetration - to help eliminate collateral damage in a shooting. It' s why air marshals use almost exclusively 9mm frangible.


Frabgibles are only more deadly in transonic bullets - those travelling at speeds well in excess of 2000 fps.

[The Valkyrie]

Nah, it wouldn't fit.

Then you wouldn't have put it in the gun.  But - through sheer, dogged persistence - if you DID manage to jam it in, it would probably wreck the pistol.

Boru

Shocked!

NO sexy talk in a gun thread!

[CDF47]