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RE: Garlic festival shooting: Three dead in Gilroy California
July 29, 2019 at 4:33 pm
(July 29, 2019 at 1:32 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (July 29, 2019 at 1:30 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Garlic festival shooting: Three dead in Gilroy California
Three people have been killed and 15 injured after a gunman attacked a food festival in California.
The gunman was shot dead by police shortly after he began firing, although police are investigating reports that a second suspect may still be at large.
The Gilroy Garlic Festival was about to end for the weekend on Sunday evening, when shots were fired at the site.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49147369
But.... I thought guns kept you safe?
Recorded as the 246th mass shooting in the States this year.
But no, there’s not a problem.
No problem at all. In fact, we're a bit ahead of our goal of one mass shooting per day, this year.
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RE: Garlic festival shooting: Three dead in Gilroy California
July 31, 2019 at 4:58 pm
(July 29, 2019 at 1:55 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Vampire resistance operatives strike again!
Just think, if all those good guys with guns loaded up with silver bullets, they could eliminate the vampire and werewolf threat at the same time!
Yay for the 2A!
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RE: Garlic festival shooting: Three dead in Gilroy California
July 31, 2019 at 5:09 pm
(July 29, 2019 at 1:30 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Garlic festival shooting: Three dead in Gilroy California
Three people have been killed and 15 injured after a gunman attacked a food festival in California.
The gunman was shot dead by police shortly after he began firing, although police are investigating reports that a second suspect may still be at large.
The Gilroy Garlic Festival was about to end for the weekend on Sunday evening, when shots were fired at the site.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49147369
But.... I thought guns kept you safe?
You did notice ?- the guys who took out the bad guy ( who had a semi auto AK variant) took him out with pistols.
They obviously spent time on the range. A uniform means dick to the ability to wield a handgun efficiently. Practice means far more. I know plenty of civilians who can outshoot cops. I know I can. I do regularly. Most cops dont shoot much past qualifying.
So yeah - good guys with handguns took out the bad guy with an " assault rifle".
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RE: Garlic festival shooting: Three dead in Gilroy California
July 31, 2019 at 5:14 pm
(July 31, 2019 at 5:09 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (July 29, 2019 at 1:30 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Garlic festival shooting: Three dead in Gilroy California
Three people have been killed and 15 injured after a gunman attacked a food festival in California.
The gunman was shot dead by police shortly after he began firing, although police are investigating reports that a second suspect may still be at large.
The Gilroy Garlic Festival was about to end for the weekend on Sunday evening, when shots were fired at the site.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49147369
But.... I thought guns kept you safe?
You did notice ?- the guys who took out the bad guy ( who had a semi auto AK variant) took him out with pistols.
They obviously spent time on the range. A uniform means dick to the ability to wield a handgun efficiently. Practice means far more. I know plenty of civilians who can outshoot cops. I know I can. I do regularly. Most cops dont shoot much past qualifying.
So yeah - good guys with handguns took out the bad guy with an " assault rifle".
Pity he was able to have an assault rifle in the first place
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RE: Garlic festival shooting: Three dead in Gilroy California
July 31, 2019 at 5:17 pm
(This post was last modified: July 31, 2019 at 5:18 pm by onlinebiker.)
(July 31, 2019 at 5:14 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: (July 31, 2019 at 5:09 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: You did notice ?- the guys who took out the bad guy ( who had a semi auto AK variant) took him out with pistols.
They obviously spent time on the range. A uniform means dick to the ability to wield a handgun efficiently. Practice means far more. I know plenty of civilians who can outshoot cops. I know I can. I do regularly. Most cops dont shoot much past qualifying.
So yeah - good guys with handguns took out the bad guy with an " assault rifle".
Pity he was able to have an assault rifle in the first place
It' s probably a good thing he did.
Why?
Because he was an idiot that thought spray and pray works.
He shot over 60 rounds and killed 3.
Had he been using a handgun and AIMED it could have been far worse.
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RE: Garlic festival shooting: Three dead in Gilroy California
July 31, 2019 at 5:28 pm
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RE: Garlic festival shooting: Three dead in Gilroy California
July 31, 2019 at 8:01 pm
(July 31, 2019 at 5:17 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (July 31, 2019 at 5:14 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Pity he was able to have an assault rifle in the first place
It' s probably a good thing he did.
Why?
Because he was an idiot that thought spray and pray works.
He shot over 60 rounds and killed 3.
Had he been using a handgun and AIMED it could have been far worse.
Well, in that case....
How is this not an argument in favour of regulating both handguns and assault rifles?
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RE: Garlic festival shooting: Three dead in Gilroy California
July 31, 2019 at 8:08 pm
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They’re already regulated. Not very well, but meh. His purchase was legal.
Both of the firearms in question, btw, are semi autos. There was no assault rifle in this equation. One set of regs could conceivably apply to both, whereas assault rifle regs would apply to neither, and “assault-style” regs would not apply to the hand gun, though they’re equally lethal for the exact same reason in these scenarios.
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RE: Garlic festival shooting: Three dead in Gilroy California
August 1, 2019 at 5:29 am
(July 31, 2019 at 8:08 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: They’re already regulated. Not very well, but meh. His purchase was legal.
Both of the firearms in question, btw, are semi autos. There was no assault rifle in this equation. One set of regs could conceivably apply to both, whereas assault rifle regs would apply to neither, and “assault-style” regs would not apply to the hand gun, though they’re equally lethal for the exact same reason in these scenarios.
This probably confuses some people.
You are using terminology as technically correct as possible - and that probably doesn't sit well with those folks that think "scary black rifle" = assault rifle.
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RE: Garlic festival shooting: Three dead in Gilroy California
August 1, 2019 at 8:26 am
If firearms are made illegal for the general public it would be much harder for this kind of thing to happen. As it is, every few weeks some nutter goes to a public place and kills innocent people. I know there is an argument that they could get a weapon illegally, but why make it easy for them?
Exceptions can be made for people who need guns, like farmers or those living in areas where dangerous animals are common but there should be strict controls in place.
I can think of no reason why any normal sane person would want or need to own a gun
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