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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 5:27 pm
Johnism takes no position and explains nothing. It merely insists that there are gaps in evolutionary theory, regardless of whether those gaps exist as described.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 5:27 pm
(August 5, 2019 at 3:42 pm)soldierofGod Wrote: (August 5, 2019 at 3:22 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: And Odin will die during Ragnarrok.
Each Prophet warned his people of the Antichrist (in this case, the Nordic peoples probably). Odin is one-eyed, that is, Satan is one-eyed. In other words the Nordic knew Satan as Odin. The Ragnarrok is the war of the end times (World War III) known by the ancient Nordics. The last Prophet, Muhammad, warned of the signs of the end times.
I haven't found the original video (maybe deleted) but I found this video of a Catholic picked up by him (video reaction).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hIvVvPe-y4
I love the way one religious group tries to equate the myths of an older religious group with the imaginary evil of their own beluefs systems.
Smells of...
...desperation.
😂
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 5:30 pm
Jesus Christ, can’t even get his comparative mythology right.
Loki would be closer to satan, though not quite. Odin was their Christ figure, who’d sacrificed himself before and would return to do so again come ragnarok.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 5:31 pm
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(August 5, 2019 at 5:07 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: (August 5, 2019 at 5:03 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: And, I would love for you to spend some time explaining to me on what evidence you have decided to accept the proposition of creationism as true versus evolution by natural selection.
I want to get you the explanation and evidence you're looking for, I just don't quite recall such a proposition being made by me on this thread.
Oh, I’m painfully aware of that fact, lol. You see, when you refuse, repeatedly, to be forthcoming about your position on a particular subject, your interlocutor is left with no other option than to make an inference based on the available evidence. In other words, if you don’t like being strawmanned, tell the truth when asked to clarify your position. Do you believe god created all living things? Do you accept the theory of evolution? Some combination of both?
Quote:I have a vague memory of saying creationism is compatible with evolution.
Sure, why not? Is that what your position is? Or something along the lines of: you’d accept the theory of evolution by natural selection in its entirety if it wasn’t for that pesky human eye business? Please, do clarify.
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Wiser words were never spoken.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 5:33 pm
(August 5, 2019 at 5:27 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Johnism takes no position and explains nothing. It merely insists that there are gaps in evolutionary theory, regardless of whether those gaps exist as described.
Its like asking you how you broke your arm. Does it make sense for me to come up with my own alternate position, or try to explain how you broke your arm with my own hypothesis, before I can ask you the question?
No, if I ask how you broke it, its up to you whether you want to tell me or not.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 5:35 pm
(August 5, 2019 at 4:51 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: (August 5, 2019 at 4:38 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/...f1f4679e11
and to be specific
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1...10.02210.x
Also, these are peer-reviewed. Undoubtedly your objections have the same veracity and have been published or likely going to be with what I assume are airtight arguments to the contrary.
Here is another dealing with transitional fossils. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1...10.02039.x
In short. FSM wept.
Are these just your own personal assortment of favorite articles? Or do they bare some relationship with my conversation with Gae Bolga? They seem disconnected from the discussion, care to clarify? You wanted some articles. They pertain to the general theme of the thread.
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 5:35 pm
Yes, it would be up to johnism to tell us whatever johnism describes, and why johnism asserts it.
It would also be up to johnism to do the most basic research about whatever claim it wished to make.
I’ll be here when you get back.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 5:36 pm
(August 5, 2019 at 4:07 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (August 5, 2019 at 3:54 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Yup, one interesting thing about motivation is that it generally has no effect on the truth of a proposition. If I say cats can fly, that statement is false regardless if my motivation for saying it comes from greed, money, revenge, sex, entertainment, religion, and the list goes on. And if the statement is true, then it will likewise be true regardless of me being classified as an honest or dishonest person.
Here's another example of a false statement: "Motivation is relevant in discussions like these."
You are right that personal motivations are irrelevant to the truth or falsehood of a proposition, however, they are quite insightful with regard to examining how a person judges the quality of available evidence for one particular proposition compared to another. Motivation can have implications with regard to erroneous reasoning, which is why I dig. I notice you’ve ignored my questions for a third time now. I’ll try drawing closer to my point a quicker way. Do you accept the current scientific theory of evolution as the best explanation for the diversity of life on planet earth?
The theory of evolution does not explain the origin of life on earth. Science refute the theory of evolution. This theory is only an illusion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXu-f_rNQ54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlXhMqJeuTQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG0oD0TYzhA&t=2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amfa-EjMKX4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pvuct9TrpA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrHDOmKPv80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paPJKPY-tuc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ABm8kOrxQk&t=412s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPXUtYs5p1U
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 5:37 pm
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(August 5, 2019 at 5:31 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Quote:I have a vague memory of saying creationism is compatible with evolution.
Sure, why not? Is that what your position is? You’d accept the theory of evolution by natural selection in its entirety if it wasn’t for that pesky human eye business? Please, do clarify.
Probably not, theories are tools. They don't require our beliefs or acceptance, only our understanding an attention. If the pesky human eye business, and all the issues in evolutionary psychology are resolve for example, then I'll be more inclined to use the theory for the formulation of hypotheses and observations. Sorry, I just have no interest in joining any evolution cults.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 5, 2019 at 5:38 pm
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Modern synth doesn’t claim to explain life on earth, and is the unifying theory of biology, SOG.
Do you have some explanation for why you got that line of criticism less than wrong?
If we were playing a creationist drinking game we’d be sloppy drunk by now.
Do you worry about having joined a creationist cult, John?
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