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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 12:11 pm
A google search costs nothing.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 12:12 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 12:08 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: OTOH, this could have been so much simpler, an actual conversation, even.
“There is no evolutionary explanation for x!”
- There is, actually, here’s one of them.
“Cool, I didn’t know that, I stand corrected”
It’s not as if you have to agree with what anyone offers you, numbskull...but if you want to discuss something, it’s generally good form to agree on the common facts of that discussions fucking existence, lol.
I'll keep that in mind if I ever want to say "there is no evolutionary explanation for x!"
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 12:12 pm
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_schema_theory
Atta boy, now enjoy one of the model based control theories.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 12:14 pm
(This post was last modified: August 6, 2019 at 12:17 pm by John 6IX Breezy.)
(August 6, 2019 at 12:10 pm)BryanS Wrote: That is just too reasonable, so I suspect that has never been considered : )
Ironically, I'm always looking up textbook or emailing professors from courses I'm not required to take but want to learn about. So its right up my alley. Tell me the course and I'll look it up.
(August 6, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_schema_theory
Atta boy, now enjoy one of the model based control theories.
So a wiki post, not an actual paper? Hmm.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 12:17 pm
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(August 6, 2019 at 12:08 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: (August 6, 2019 at 12:01 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Have you ever considered taking a college level course on this subject? That seems to be the most reasonable step for anyone genuinely interested in a more in-depth investigation of a particular scientific topic.
It doesn't seem reasonable from a financial stand point, but perhaps I can get the syllabus from my university and just read their textbook or assaigned papers. What course teaches model based control so I can look it up?
Why would you assume I know the answer to that question? You’re the one with the insatiable thirst for knowledge. Go research some courses. I’m assuming you’re an adult, yeah?
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 12:19 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 12:14 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: (August 6, 2019 at 12:10 pm)BryanS Wrote: That is just too reasonable, so I suspect that has never been considered : )
Ironically, I'm always looking up textbook or emailing professors from courses I'm not required to take but want to learn about. So its right up my alley. Tell me the course and I'll look it up.
(August 6, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_schema_theory
Atta boy, now enjoy one of the model based control theories.
So a wiki post, not an actual paper? Hmm.
You understand how Wikipedia works, yes? There are citations at the bottom, lol. Why do you insist on being baby-birded this stuff?
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 12:20 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 12:14 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Ironically, I'm always looking up textbook or emailing professors from courses I'm not required to take but want to learn about. So its right up my alley. Tell me the course and I'll look it up.
(August 6, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_schema_theory
Atta boy, now enjoy one of the model based control theories.
So a wiki post, not an actual paper? Hmm.
Books and scholarly papers are in the "For further reading" section of that wiki article. There you go.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 12:22 pm
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Spends a day bitching about not being given a link that would turn up on a google search. Claims that this, this is the problem.
Is given a link that would turn up on a google search........
..................still has a problem.
Worth another page, I guess. : shrugs :
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 12:25 pm
(This post was last modified: August 6, 2019 at 12:31 pm by John 6IX Breezy.)
Of course, but clearly I'm making my requests partly because I don't think the gentlemen knows what he's talking about. Its just an assumption of course. It's just an odd behavior. If any of you had any questions about vision or consciousness, or other topics in psychology, I have no problem pointing you to any of the papers I've read. I generally keep them on an organized folder on my computer. They're all highlighted. So I have no problem discussing any of them. I wouldn't have you read the papers at the bottom of a wiki page, because those might not be the ones I've read.
If he's not wasting my time, he can just send me the paper, I'll read it tonight, and we can discuss it in the morning. Earlier in the forum (Nakara I believe?) sent one such paper, I read and responded. Simple and straightforward.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 12:31 pm
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(August 6, 2019 at 12:25 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: (August 6, 2019 at 12:20 pm)BryanS Wrote: Books and scholarly papers are in the "For further reading" section of that wiki article. There you go.
Of course, but clearly I'm making my requests partly because I don't think the gentlemen knows what he's talking about. Its just an assumption of course. It's just an odd behavior. If any of you had any questions about vision or consciousness, etc., I have no problem pointing you to any of the papers I've read. I generally keep them on an organized folder on my computer. They're all highlighted. So I have no problem discussing any of them.
If he's not wasting my time, he can just send me the paper, I'll read it tonight, and we can discuss it in the morning. Earlier in the forum (Nakara I believe?) sent one such paper, I read and responded. Simple and straightforward.
If you aren’t capable of conducting an independent investigation into the totality of evidence publicly available to you on this subject you seem to care so much about, what on earth did you think you would accomplish by coming here? Atheists are in no way obligated to provide you with a science education.
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