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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 6:47 pm
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(August 6, 2019 at 6:40 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Can you see in infrared? Can you make sense of infrared camera data provided to you?
If by infrared camera data you mean raw infrared information, no, I don't believe we can see it. But if that information is watered down and translated into something that our eyes and brain can perceive, then yes. Also yes, I can see your post. What I don't see are the 0's and 1's behind it because of abstraction. Its been translated into something easier to perceive and comprehend. Similar to infrared.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 6:58 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 6:14 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: (August 6, 2019 at 6:06 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: I merely stated a fact. Our brains are capable of processing information, even otherwise “visual” information far in excess of what our actual eyes can actually see.
This is an example of there being no parity between what visual cues we can contemplate and process, and what visual cues our eyes provide.
Ok so we're clear that we're comparing the components within an organism. We're not making cross-species comparisons.
Now, and hopefully this doesn't instigate another rabbit hole rant, but I'm going to ask you for evidence. The reason being, is that it seems difficult to measure how much visual information the brain can handle, without a way to present that visual information to the brain. At least not through the eyes since your claim is that they are insufficient to present it.
Maybe I lack the creativity to come up with a way to make such a measurement, so please show me how it was done.
Oh, FFS.
Please explain why it might be that we know species that loose eyes? Can you explain that? After all, you are the person claiming that it can't be possible. You are the one claiming that evolution must be ever upward towards some ethereal goal. Just you alone. So kindly explain why it is that evolution has removed eyes for certain creatures? They had eyes millions of years ago and now they don't. Why? Can you explain that in your terms? Of course not.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 7:00 pm
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Then there you have it, John. Your brain is capable of understanding things beyond your eyes ability to detect.
Your eyes see shit your brain gets wrong, too.
Next question.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 7:01 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 6:58 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Oh, FFS.
"You are the one claiming that evolution must be ever upward towards some ethereal goal."
I'll explain that claim if I ever decide to make it. So stay tuned Professor.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 7:03 pm
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You know this thread exists, right, for anyone to quote you having made these claims.
Is your brain malfunctioning here, even though your eyes could see those claims as well as ours?
I’m starting to think that, in your minds eye... things were going to go some other way here.
How did that pan out?
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 7:04 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 6:47 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: (August 6, 2019 at 6:40 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Can you see in infrared? Can you make sense of infrared camera data provided to you?
If by infrared camera data you mean raw infrared information, no, I don't believe we can see it. But if that information is watered down and translated into something that our eyes and brain can perceive, then yes. Also yes, I can see your post. What I don't see are the 0's and 1's behind it because of abstraction. Its been translated into something easier to perceive and comprehend. Similar to infrared.
Snakes can. Why can we not? Surely not because we are, according to you, the pinnacle of evolution, right? No way any other thing could have acquired the ability to sense the infra-red, right?
Except snakes do exactly that. Thus we are all of us sensorially inferior to snakes. Oh and before you go there, snakes can't talk. Get over it.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 7:05 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 7:00 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Then there you have it, John. Your brain is capable of understanding things beyond your eyes ability to detect.
Your eyes see shit your brain gets wrong, too.
Next question.
Ah, right lol. You're under the impression that our brains can perceive infrared? No lol, again, that information is till being funneled through your eyes not around them.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 7:05 pm
My eyes don’t see infrared. Do yours?
Should we scramble the sentinels while the mutant threat can still be contained?
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 7:06 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 7:03 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: You know this thread exists, right, for anyone to quote you having made these claims.
Is your brain malfunctioning here, even though your eyes could see those claims as well as ours?
I’m starting to think that, in your minds eye... things were going to go some other way here.
How did that pan out?
Yup, so quote me.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
August 6, 2019 at 7:06 pm
(August 6, 2019 at 7:01 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: (August 6, 2019 at 6:58 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Oh, FFS.
"You are the one claiming that evolution must be ever upward towards some ethereal goal."
I'll explain that claim if I ever decide to make it. So stay tuned Professor.
Once again, I am not a professor. How stupid are you?
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