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RE: Beliefs
February 17, 2011 at 8:52 pm
The problem with Christians is their to self centered and stuborn to accept atheists. There just to convinced in there beliefs and for what? maybe if you would try using some common sense you would see just how crazy your beliefs are.
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For Man to move forward we must throw away religion, and put it in the Mythology section, and then use Reason, Logic, and Common sense to solve all our daily problems. That's a Higher Level of Thinking.
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RE: Beliefs
February 17, 2011 at 9:00 pm
If you're going to try and take the high ground it'd work better if you didn't resort to poor generalisations, the vast majority of theists are neither stubborn, self centred nor hostile to Atheists..
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February 17, 2011 at 9:08 pm
Im not saying they are. I guess i should have made it more clear. Im not trying to generalize the whole Christian community. I was mainly stating that the Christians around were i live are like what i said above. A bunch of non demoninational, evanglist....people.
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RE: Beliefs
February 17, 2011 at 9:31 pm
In my experience the less dogmatic theists are pretty relaxed with atheists. Although understandably are offended by the rhetoric of atheists such as Richard Dawkins (which in my opinion does go overboard on occasion). The more dogmatic ones, especially Evangelical Christians in my experience generally dislike atheists and have burning hatred for the more outspoken ones such as Richard Dawkins. To give an example; there are plenty of examples of Evangelical Christians saying in their testimonies that they were once Atheists.
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RE: Beliefs
February 17, 2011 at 11:05 pm
(February 17, 2011 at 9:31 pm)ziggystardust Wrote: In my experience the less dogmatic theists are pretty relaxed with atheists. Although understandably are offended by the rhetoric of atheists such as Richard Dawkins (which in my opinion does go overboard on occasion). The more dogmatic ones, especially Evangelical Christians in my experience generally dislike atheists and have burning hatred for the more outspoken ones such as Richard Dawkins. To give an example; there are plenty of examples of Evangelical Christians saying in their testimonies that they were once Atheists.
Christians should be neither relaxed about atheist or hate atheist even one as staunch as Dawkins. Christ teaches that we (christians) are to love everyone as God loves everyone. Of course this is impossible because we are fallible humans, what is possible is not hating others no matter who they are or what they have done. Christians should never let their guard down because satan has a way of exploiting temptation, such as having hatered for someone, this interferes with ones relationship with Christ causing one to stumble and not putting forth his/her best efforts. Just saying...
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Beliefs
February 19, 2011 at 7:18 am
(February 17, 2011 at 9:00 pm)theVOID Wrote: [...]the vast majority of theists are neither stubborn, self centred nor hostile to Atheists..
I don't mean to be a pessimist, but it is my understanding that the vast majority of people are stubborn, self-centred and hostile to each other.
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February 19, 2011 at 11:50 pm
I don't base my hatred of christianity on any individual. Its the fact that those people devote a major portion (if not all) of their lives to the concept. To me, that is like mixing whiskey with tomato juice. It doesn't make sense and is actually quite stupid to explore since you already know what its going to taste like. Yet you spend the rest of your lives convincing yourself that this is the best taste of liquid to be had on the planet. I can't accept delusional people like that. And then when they decide to defend themselves instead of accepting facts. Well, that just goes into a realm far beyond stupid.
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RE: Beliefs
February 20, 2011 at 12:20 am
(February 19, 2011 at 7:18 am)DoubtVsFaith Wrote: (February 17, 2011 at 9:00 pm)theVOID Wrote: [...]the vast majority of theists are neither stubborn, self centred nor hostile to Atheists..
I don't mean to be a pessimist, but it is my understanding that the vast majority of people are stubborn, self-centred and hostile to each other.
You hang out with the wrong crowd, clearly, I know very few people who are actually that bad, and they tend to stick out like a sore thumb amongst the 'average' people.
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RE: Beliefs
February 20, 2011 at 12:28 am
(February 19, 2011 at 7:18 am)DoubtVsFaith Wrote: (February 17, 2011 at 9:00 pm)theVOID Wrote: [...]the vast majority of theists are neither stubborn, self centred nor hostile to Atheists..
I don't mean to be a pessimist, but it is my understanding that the vast majority of people are stubborn, self-centred and hostile to each other.
Indeed. That's part of the human condition,it has nothing to do with beliefs or lack of them necessarily.
Religious beliefs seem to bring out the best in some people, the worst in others and seem to have little effect on most as far as I can tell.---By that I mean I have not yet devised a way to determine what a person believes based soley on their behavior.
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RE: Beliefs
February 20, 2011 at 8:43 am
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(February 20, 2011 at 12:20 am)theVOID Wrote: You hang out with the wrong crowd, clearly, I know very few people who are actually that bad, and they tend to stick out like a sore thumb amongst the 'average' people.
I didn't know that this was about who we personally know.
Who said anything about bad? It's perfectly normal to be stubborn, self-centered and hostile at times. We're only human. Still, I am nevertheless rather pessimistic about these things: The way I see it the best of us can still be complete assholes and that's rather depressing.
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