The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!

[brewer]

I heard about this one guy who cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with a herring. 

I think his name was Tim.

Ni!

Wouldn't get very far if you couldn't say "it".

[Nay_Sayer]

Well yeah. It tends to happen with plagiarizes

[The Valkyrie]

Ni!

Wouldn't get very far if you couldn't say "it".

Couldn’t say “tit”!

[brewer]

Wouldn't get very far if you couldn't say "it".

Couldn’t say “tit”!

I've said tit, getting farther typically depended either on alcohol or money.

Hold the phone, should jesus have said tit?

[Anomalocaris]

It just dawned on me that in the least, certain details about the jesus story as written in the bible were just made up.

I want someone to explain to me how in the world anyone could seriously assert to know what Jesus, or anyone else for that matter in the bible would have said when praying? and if anyone dares to say that Jesus came back after being alone and told everyone what he said, and was careful to recite word for word to others, and was remembered by those telling the story 20+ years after his death word for word before his story was finally written, you are suffering from delusion  i highly doubt jesus came back and told folks what his personal prayers to yhwh/god were and word for word and even included the detail that he admitted to yhwh that it wasnt his will to endure what was to come, but submitted to his god's will and not his own. people just dont  repeat things to others like that,..."oh and I told yhwh that it was nt my will to endure what's coming to me soon, but i told yhwh not my will, but thine...". not rational to believe this people, this just isnt going to happen then get told to just the right line of ppl up till it gets written over 20+yrs later.

never once did the scriptures ever say that any of the characters in these stories went around and told  the others that werent present for each event, what happened so how in the heck did anyone know each and every action that each character did when these characters were not always around the same people, and how these entire collection of tories about each character all became knowledge to anyone, then somehow anywhere from a few decades, to thousanbds of years later is known to the ones who finally wrote these down.

I smell a very bad fish here. the fact that thee stories include moments when characters said and did things when they were all by themselves, is far more to me than suspicious. what we know from history, is that both legends and myths are born when folks from the very culture of the characters they write about, the fact that the jews continued on as if noone ever truely came along and displayed supernatural feats, as their prophecies claimed would happen with the prophecied messiah would do is just more reason along with these claims in the scriptures made about this Jesus who was gone decades before he was written about makes certain suspicions very clear. 

If anyone ever came along and truely fullfilled all the prophecies that the respected prophets of their culture had made concerning the messiah they have waited so long for, especially considering some of the attributes that this messiah is suppose to posses like performing supernatural acts, the jews would have more than noticed this, and would have embraced this messiah and he would have impressed the world and became the world leader like one of the prophecies claimed, and not have been executed for herecy which is not a messianic prophecy, and we wouldnt have a religion that rejects the prophecies directly address the messiah and embraces non messianic texts in Isaiah which could be attributed to more than jesus who was executed for herecy after claiming this role. It seems that folks who wanted jesus to be the messiah most definitely made things up in his story to both sound convincing and impressive when these things were made up, because the vast majority of jews in the first century most definitely werent impressed with anyone who has claimed that role. plus its well known that Pilat and Herod could not have done what the NT claims they did when they did. Herod died before the 1st century for crying out loud. god told me he prayed to himself and had to let himself know that his will didnt quite agree with his other will, but will submit to his own will afterall,    then let the others he was reciting this to that he told himself "not my will but thine be done". this is insanity to think this is true,  it looks more like a fictiional story about a man who is claimed to be the human incarnate of the invisible skygod that him and his culture believe exists,  and included details about him praying to hisself as if his other personaly, needed to know something which again makes no sense yet the scriptures even says that this god isnt suppose to be confusing.

None of the "born of a virgin", "walked on water", "came back to life" managed to spark any realization of "most definitely made up" prior to this?

Do you think all this talk of murky "prophecies" and hypothetical behavior of gullible ignorami and hucksters from 2000 years ago can meaningfully add to or subtract from the implications of those things named above?

[The Valkyrie]

Couldn’t say “tit”!

I've said tit, getting farther typically depended either on alcohol or money.

Hold the phone, should jesus have said tit?

‘And verily I say unto you, “tits, boobs, knob, bollocks!” amen.’
- from “The Breakdown on the Mount: The uncensored life of Jesus”, By Judas Ascariot 75th.

[brewer]

‘And verily I say unto you, “tits, boobs, knob, bollocks!” amen.’
  - from “The Breakdown on the Mount: The uncensored life of Jesus”, By Judas Ascariot 75th.

[Anomalocaris]

Couldn’t say “tit”!

I've said tit, getting farther typically depended either on alcohol or money.

Hold the phone, should jesus have said tit?

Judging from everything else said about Jesus, any real life character he might have been based on more than others did not lean in the direction of tits.

[The Valkyrie]

‘And verily I say unto you, “tits, boobs, knob, bollocks!” amen.’
  - from “The Breakdown on the Mount: The uncensored life of Jesus”, By Judas Ascariot 75th.

Pointless trivia: a number of years ago the actress who played Judith, became mayor of her home town where Life of Brian was still banned...

[ronedee]

If anyone ever came along and truely fullfilled all the prophecies that the respected prophets of their culture had made concerning the messiah they have waited so long for, especially considering some of the attributes that this messiah is suppose to posses like performing supernatural acts, the jews would have more than noticed this, and would have embraced this messiah and he would have impressed the world and became the world leader like one of the prophecies claimed, and not have been executed for herecy which is not a messianic prophecy, and we wouldnt have a religion that rejects the prophecies directly address the messiah and embraces non messianic texts in Isaiah which could be attributed to more than jesus who was executed for herecy after claiming this role. It seems that folks who wanted jesus to be the messiah most definitely made things up in his story to both sound convincing and impressive when these things were made up, because the vast majority of jews in the first century most definitely werent impressed with anyone who has claimed that role. plus its well known that Pilat and Herod could not have done what the NT claims they did when they did. Herod died before the 1st century for crying out loud. god told me he prayed to himself and had to let himself know that his will didnt quite agree with his other will, but will submit to his own will afterall,    then let the others he was reciting this to that he told himself "not my will but thine be done". this is insanity to think this is true,  it looks more like a fictiional story about a man who is claimed to be the human incarnate of the invisible skygod that him and his culture believe exists,  and included details about him praying to hisself as if his other personaly, needed to know something which again makes no sense yet the scriptures even says that this god isnt suppose to be confusing.

There are lots of things you haven't considered. For one, there were hundreds, if not thousands of witnesses to Jesus! I know even my meager memory of drunken frat parties can be filled in by several friends who were there. Why not Jesus' revelations and miracles all the more by sober witnesses? Secondly, OT scripture, especially Isaiah; "Suffering Servant", wasn't mainstream, or accepted by any means as the precursor to the Messiah! No, according to the Jewish Priests and scribes, the Messiah was going to "slice & dice", his way across the land.

If there would be a "story to sell"..... it wouldn't be the [Jesus story]: some poor carpenter, wanting you to love the Romans, and eat His body, and drink His blood! And then to be hung on a tree to die, with a bunch of lowly women being the ONLY witnesses to His resurrection. No.... not at all.

The main problem with the Jesus story for nonbelievers, is there is a disconnect for any logic in it. But hey, that was the point! The story, specifically the Gospel, has to be taken in as a "whole works". And, to painfully quantify it; "Love God, and Love thy neighbor as thyself." Doing all of the above will be an act of redemption, and save one from sin and the fires of hell. Whether you (or even some pigmy in the Congo) know Jesus, or not you would be doing His will for us. And thus your ticket to Paradise! Amen