God's Love

[brewer]

John, are you XXY? And/or FADS?

Huh?

Almost conformation, but not quite.

Still waiting for your dick John.

[Gwaithmir]

Johanabrahams
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Johan apparently does not understand the concept of The Penalty Box. That's not my problem. 

[Johanabrahams]

That is just your opinion of something you don't see.  But Jesus opens the eyes of the blind.  You will eventually see. 



As I said.  You will be saved from cold intellectualism and restored into warm Relationships of Love.  Where Love and Wisdom rule vs your fear and punishment you are presently existing in.  The evidence is supplied by @Abaddon_ire that it is very "Real". 




As is said.  You being blind is the problem here.  Jesus will restore your eyesight.  And the evidence is starting to show. 

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So... if it's now some how 'Subjective' to me..... can you post to the specific and objective thing/item/*snerd* of evidence for your deity?
I mean, I understand that English is not your first/primary language but... uhm... are you even trying to English?
I am sorry if that comes across as snarky but, mate, the above post is... words strung together in lines.
Not at work.

So... if it's now some how 'Subjective' to me..... can you post to the specific and objective thing/item/*snerd* of evidence for your deity?

Sure.   I am doing that.  

I mean, I understand that English is not your first/primary language

Good.  

but... uhm... are you even trying to English?

Yep.  

I am sorry if that comes across as snarky

Don't worry.  If you do or say anything wrong i just forgive you.   And then it is up to you to correct your blunder.  If you can.  

but, mate, the above post is... words strung together in lines.

Yep.  That is how we do it.

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You just didn't understand the answer.  They knew God said they should not eat of that tree. The knew the right thing to do that they can eat of all the trees.  And they knew wrong that they should not eat of the tree of Knowledge.   Desire comes in when you want to do something that you know you should not do.  They enjoyed looking at the tree to eat the fruit that they knew God said they should not eat.  Because then they would be dead.  They desired something they should not do.

You don't want to answer if Adam & Eve were innocent or not (and you still haven't)

I did.  You just didn't see it.  

because you know deep inside that it's a catch-22.

You tried to "catch me"?

For them to know about good & evil, they would first have to eat of the Tree of Knowledge for them to know that it was wrong.

That is your opinion on it.

You play around this little piece of logic in an desperate and foolhardy attempt to dodge that.

You missed me.  I honestly answered all your questions.    But you admitted that you were not honest in your approach.  

In short, God could've put that tree on Mars, making it inaccessible,

Better still.   Without going to that extreme He could just have left it out of creation.  

but because God's a dick he put it right in front of them in the Garden of Eden. Or so the story goes.

You don't understand the "choice".  To force others to obey is not Love.  Without a choice they didn't have any other option than being "obedient".  Like putting your dog on a leash and showing everyone how much your dog "loves" you by not running away.    You have to set it free.  If it comes back to you then it shows its "love".

This boils down to you too.  You are also there in Eden.  In Adam and Eve.  You have a choice to Love God or yourself.  To allow God to be your Father or being your own "father".  God is a Father at heart.  And He does not force Himself on others.  You have to choose Him.  You choose to eat of the Tree of Life or the tree of knowledge.   Where the last choice is being God yourself and creating your own life.  And the first is to allow God to take you into His Life.  Being born His Child and growing up with Him as your Father. 

Your choice.

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You're in the Penalty Box, Johan. Have a nice day.  

Why does one go to the effort of telling someone he is on "ignore"?

Seems to me he could just have left quietly?

Or maybe it is human mentality.  Believing still in "punishment".  So he is "punishing me".  By hiding away?   Like Adam and Eve in Eden after they did wrong?

[The Grand Nudger]

Because it fucks with attention whores.

[LadyForCamus]

This guy is super boring.

[The Grand Nudger]

Definitely not the best nut we've had over the years.

[Foxaèr]

Definitely not the best nut we've had over the years.

Which reminds me, I need to bust a nut before bed.

[Johanabrahams]

So you think I am have 27 000 people in Robertson "sick to death" because of "sex"?  Interesting.  So tell us more? 

Because Ultimately I am using the same method here too.  @Abaddon_ire said it is anger and a "cudgel"

I said it is God's Love and Wisdom that will release you of your "slavery" and restore you into Life.  Saved from your dead intellectualism to Relationships in Love.  

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Seems you are a bit "off topic" here?  You can of course start one.  And then those that are interested in your topic can "debate" it.  But you know by now that our Relationship is important.  And as a "mod" I am actually in saving your from your "boss - slave" relationships here. 

Now the question is how I am going to do that.  With "anger and a cudgel" from @Abaddon_ire or with "sex" from @brewer   or with Love and Wisdom?  What is really the source of my Power to do this?

Now going to your "spirit" which is important to God and me because we are Spiritual we have to look closely at "mother fucker".  You either think I am "sexing with my mother".  That is why she got ill and went to the "loony bin".   So you are taking my on in this regard.  Siding with @brewer. 

Or you are "angry".  And thus this evil spirit of anger is taking your mind that you can clearly see in @Abaddon_ire too.  To say things contrary to "good" mind.  Making you a slave of it.  Ruling your intellect.  Because that is what evil spirits do. 

That is how it happened in Robertson.  All these "good men" or "clergy" starting acting like those they condemned.  The criminals.   Fighting with anger and their fists.  Using "cudgels".  And afterwards the consequences have them "sick to death".  Because that are the consequences of allowing your mind to be taken by an evil spirit of anger.  Saying and doing things contrary to a "good mind."  Becoming a criminal. 

Now your turn.  You are into "sex" or "anger".  Because "anger" will "ban" me as those in Robertson did.  And all the forums did too.  You will look for a reason that is non existent and just ban me.  But of course afterwards face the consequences of your anger.  Which is not good.  The wounds never heal.  

But this is your choice.  To go with Love and Wisdom or the evil of anger.  Ruling "your forum" with anger and punishment.  Being dead in a dead forum.  Or of course accepting Love and becoming Alive.  Learning Love and Wisdom as the Ultimate Ruling Authority of God. 

This you will know is what the Christians were waiting for.  God bringing His Ruling to earth.  Well the time has arrived.   And as I already mentioned this to you it seems this is the origin of your "anger".  Seeing the Ultimate Ruling of God in Love and Wisdom vs your human ruling in fear and punishment.  

Enjoy!  The Perfect is here.

You and I do not have a “relationship.” You’re bat-shit crazy, and I’m making fun of you. That is all.

You and I do not have a “relationship.”

You just don't understand God's Grace.  Loving you while you are still living in enmity.  God is your Father and i am your Mother.  We give birth to you to be our Beloved Son, Jesus. 

Gal. 4
19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,


1 Cor. 4
 14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.
  15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
  16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
17 For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.

 But because Love does not force you will experience nothing of this because Love has to be accepted.    You having rejected it does not mean it does not exist.  Like my Son @Abaddon_ire.  Him having rejected and fighting His Mother does not mean i am not His Mother.  

And thus the broken Relationship is from your side only.  

You’re bat-shit crazy,

Yep.  That is the only way to judge this situation that will give you some satisfaction for your intellect.  

John 10
  ¶There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings.

   And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?
   Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?

Some reject and some accept.  

and I’m making fun of you. That is all.

The word you used "mother fucker" rather shows you are angry.  But it does not matter.  Both are not up to par with Love.  Both gives an inferior experience of life to what Love could have given you.  But it is your choice.  And you have to make it.  And you live with the consequences.  Happy consequences for good choices and unhappy consequences for bad choices.

[Foxaèr]

You just don't understand God's Grace.

You just don't understand that there's no such thing.

[Johanabrahams]

You know, I would really like to see Johan go head to head with Drich. That would be awesome

Kind of like the irresistable shit against the immovable shit?

Nope.  Like Mother and Son.  I did invite him.  Because He understands more of the Love of God and Relationship with Him.  And will be of a huge help.  I can also tag him. @Drich. But after that it is all up to him.