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Fatal shooting of Rayshard Brooks
#81
RE: Fatal shooting of Rayshard Brooks
A cop steal your girl/boyfriend?

One owe you money?

Get caught shoplifting dildos?

Exactly why are you such a copist? © ( copist - sort of like a racist _ but hates cops)
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#82
RE: Fatal shooting of Rayshard Brooks
I do, plenty of guns. I'm part of the 3%, lol.

I have a problem with murderous cops, glad to clear that up for you OLB.
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#83
RE: Fatal shooting of Rayshard Brooks
(June 15, 2020 at 10:44 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I do, plenty of guns.  I'm part of the 3%, lol.

I have a problem with murderous cops, glad to clear that up for you OLB.

Gun ownership or lack thereof has no bearing whatsoever on your hatred of cops.

I believe that stems from something else - and you won't tell us about it...

Must be pretty bad..


Tell us. They say confession is good for the soul..

(If you happen to believe in such twaddle)
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#84
RE: Fatal shooting of Rayshard Brooks
(June 15, 2020 at 10:19 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(June 15, 2020 at 9:53 am)Mr Wizard Wrote: But in this case the guy got the taser and was running away, if the cop was truly in fear then why chase after the guy? The cop already had his car, his identity and had the ability to call for backup, shooting the guy should not even have been an option. As a cop if you cant deal with someone resisting arrest or trying to get away from you, without shooting them, then maybe you shouldnt be cop.

All probably true.

It still does not make it murder.

Even if thats true, does it really matter? Doesnt make what I watched any less horrific or the guy any less dead.
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#85
RE: Fatal shooting of Rayshard Brooks
Agno was wondering out loud about my guns, glad to clear that up for you OLB.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#86
RE: Fatal shooting of Rayshard Brooks
(June 15, 2020 at 12:33 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote:
(June 15, 2020 at 10:19 am)onlinebiker Wrote: All probably true.

It still does not make it murder.

Even if thats true, does it really matter? Doesnt make what I watched any less horrific or the guy any less dead.

No it doesn't.

But it does change the charges and any possible sentencing.
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#87
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RE: Fatal shooting of Rayshard Brooks
(June 15, 2020 at 8:19 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(June 15, 2020 at 8:11 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Yeah, that's not what 'policing by consent' means.  Have a google.

Boru
It means fuck all...

It might work with butterflies and unicorns - but enforcing laws on humans who are not cooperative requires force - sometimes deadly.

It’s worked in the UK (with a few admitted bobbles) for more than 150 years. You seem unwilling to look it up, so allow me to be of service.

The basic idea of policing with consent is that cops behave in a manner that makes people want to have them around. It means behaving with professionalism, restraint, integrity and accountability. 

What it does NOT mean is that cops are prohibited from using force or deadly force, that they should stand idly by while you are playing out your rape and murder fantasies. Force is not only sometimes an option, sometimes it is the only option.

If Brooks had been passed out drunk in a drive-through in the UK, the most likely outcome is that the cops would have driven him home to sleep it off. 

You’d do well to look up ‘Peelian Principles’ to get a better idea of policing by consent.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#88
RE: Fatal shooting of Rayshard Brooks
How can they maintain social order if they don't shoot runaways?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#89
RE: Fatal shooting of Rayshard Brooks
(June 15, 2020 at 1:17 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: How can they maintain social order if they don't shoot runaways?

Yeah, it’s a puzzle and no mistake.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#90
RE: Fatal shooting of Rayshard Brooks
(June 15, 2020 at 1:06 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 15, 2020 at 8:19 am)onlinebiker Wrote: It means fuck all...

It might work with butterflies and unicorns - but enforcing laws on humans who are not cooperative requires force - sometimes deadly.

It’s worked in the UK (with a few admitted bobbles) for more than 150 years. You seem unwilling to look it up, so allow me to be of service.

The basic idea of policing with consent is that cops behave in a manner that makes people want to have them around. It means behaving with professionalism, restraint, integrity and accountability. 

What it does NOT mean is that cops are prohibited from using force or deadly force, that they should stand idly by while you are playing out your rape and murder fantasies. Force is not only sometimes an option, sometimes it is the only option.

If Brooks had been passed out drunk in a drive-through in the UK, the most likely outcome is that the cops would have driven him home to sleep it off. 

You’d do well to look up ‘Peelian Principles’ to get a better idea of policing by consent.

Boru

So your plan is to let drunk drivers slide - add kill far more people than cops EVER did...

Nice plan.. I suspect you're a big fan of alcohol...
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