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Yup. I'm good now.
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(October 21, 2021 at 8:50 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(October 21, 2021 at 8:49 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: You're still going on about your rape apology claims? Why am I bringing up sexual abuse committed by Catholic priests if I am such a big fan of rape? The evidence overwhelmingly showed that Kobe Bryant was not guilty, and in the absence of evidence, you shouldn't be locking up black men who are overwhelmingly likely to be innocent. There are already far too many of them locked up. By the way, in this post I'm not putting down the accuser at all, so don't ban me again. The accuser is lovely and beautiful and brave.

/sarcasm noted

Thanks for the proof I didn't have to provide to vulcan.

The sarcasm was a necessity to prevent you from banning me again for having an opinion on a legal case. Sad that this is necessary, but you have to do what you have to do.
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(October 21, 2021 at 9:15 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:
(October 21, 2021 at 8:50 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: /sarcasm noted

Thanks for the proof I didn't have to provide to vulcan.

The sarcasm was a necessity to prevent you from banning me again for having an opinion on a legal case. Sad that this is necessary, but you have to do what you have to do.

Thanks, but I don't need your permission.
  
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(October 21, 2021 at 6:35 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:
(October 21, 2021 at 2:57 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: And said: therefore the entirety of the LGBTQ movement in American history is nothing more than a secret vehicle lead by rich white supremacists and their cohorts, the racist white LGBTQ community (?) to advance black genocide via abortion and decreased birth rates (?)
Now you did ask me about lbgt advocates and my question to you (which you never answered btw) was where were these white lbgt advocates when a white lbgt was essentially getting away with murduing two gay black men? They never said one word about Ed Buck, yet they have all the smoke for Dave Chappelle. Miss me with that.

First of all, these two events aren’t similar enough to be considered comparable, so I don’t know what you hope to achieve by doing so. On the one hand, we have a white man and LGBTQ donor on the hook for murdering two gay, black sexual partners, and on the other we have a prominent comedian publicly delegitimizing trans people at time when trans rights are being attacked all over the country. I’m not sure where you think the “gotcha” is. ?

But to answer your question: where were “they?” I don’t know, Huggy. Who is “they?” I know that over 100 protesters gathered at Ed Buck’s door step after law enforcement lagged on pressing charges. So, unless you did a personal background check on every protestor to verify that none of them were LGBTQ, or both black and LGBTQ, you’re pissing in the wind. But more broadly, when you say “they,” do you think the LGBTQ community is some kind of hive mind? Because that sounds exactly like white people saying, in response to police killings of black men, “they don’t even care about black on black crime.” Is that the kind of mentality you’d like to employ?
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(October 21, 2021 at 9:33 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(October 21, 2021 at 6:35 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Now you did ask me about lbgt advocates and my question to you (which you never answered btw) was where were these white lbgt advocates when a white lbgt was essentially getting away with murduing two gay black men? They never said one word about Ed Buck, yet they have all the smoke for Dave Chappelle. Miss me with that.

First of all, these two events aren’t similar enough to be considered comparable, so I don’t know what you hope to achieve by doing so. On the one hand, we have a white man and LGBTQ donor on the hook for murdering two gay, black sexual partners, and on the other we have a prominent comedian publicly delegitimizing trans people at time when trans rights are being attacked all over the country. I’m not sure where you think the “gotcha” is. ?

But to answer your question: where were “they?” I don’t know, Huggy. Who is “they?” I know that over 100 protesters gathered at Ed Buck’s door step after law enforcement lagged on pressing charges. So, unless you did a personal background check on every protestor to verify that none of them were LGBTQ, or both black and LGBTQ, you’re pissing in the wind. But more broadly, when you say “they,” do you think the LGBTQ community is some kind of hive mind? Because that sounds exactly white people saying, in response to police killings of black men, “they don’t even care about black on black crime.” Is that the kind of mentality you’d like to employ?
Another question is why are gay people obligated to protest Ed Buck or anyone else. If Ed Buck was black and straight would straight blacks be obligated to protest? The answer is no. This is the same kind of bullshit racists use when they accuse black activists of ignoring black-on-black crime as a gotcha. No group is obligated to object or responsible for the worst among them. This is guilt by association and obligation by association.
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(October 21, 2021 at 8:13 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(October 21, 2021 at 6:55 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: [Image: 2-CDFAE3-C-34-C2-47-DD-BEC8-52-A447-B1379-C.png]

Holy shit that picture is funny. I can't stop laughing at it.

Anyway, I don't think the allegations that IR is a blithering idiot are correct. Several of his points have been cogently put, and I appreciate that. That doesn't make his points correct, but it does mean they deserve counterarguments rather than outright dismissal.

Admittedly, there are some members of this forum who I have a harder time being charitable toward than others, lol.

And that picture is one of my favorites. It’s my number one go-to when I think someone is talking out their ass. My husband and I stare at it and laugh all the time. 😁
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Wiser words were never spoken. 
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BYE-BYE IA !!!



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As much as I dislike IA, I don't see his recent postings as ban worthy. But whatevs.
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Maybe IA would have been in less trouble if he had used Kevin Spacey as his exception to the rule that gay people are generally awesome. At least, as far as the investigations into his sexual misconduct have shown, a majority of his victims (Anthony Rapp aside) were of age.

(October 21, 2021 at 9:33 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(October 21, 2021 at 6:35 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Now you did ask me about lbgt advocates and my question to you (which you never answered btw) was where were these white lbgt advocates when a white lbgt was essentially getting away with murduing two gay black men? They never said one word about Ed Buck, yet they have all the smoke for Dave Chappelle. Miss me with that.

First of all, these two events aren’t similar enough to be considered comparable, so I don’t know what you hope to achieve by doing so. On the one hand, we have a white man and LGBTQ donor on the hook for murdering two gay, black sexual partners, and on the other we have a prominent comedian publicly delegitimizing trans people at time when trans rights are being attacked all over the country. I’m not sure where you think the “gotcha” is. ?

But to answer your question: where were “they?” I don’t know, Huggy. Who is “they?” I know that over 100 protesters gathered at Ed Buck’s door step after law enforcement lagged on pressing charges. So, unless you did a personal background check on every protestor to verify that none of them were LGBTQ, or both black and LGBTQ, you’re pissing in the wind. But more broadly, when you say “they,” do you think the LGBTQ community is some kind of hive mind? Because that sounds exactly like white people saying, in response to police killings of black men, “they don’t even care about black on black crime.” Is that the kind of mentality you’d like to employ?

It's also worth noting: Ed Buck was just an obscure donor to the Democratic Party until it turned out he was killing black men in his home. He didn't even have a Wikipedia article until after the first death, and the circumstances were just unusual enough that he still had plausible deniability, and the fact that the ones trying to beat the drum were QAnon types probably made people not give these conspiracies any credence. At least until they turned out to be true in 2019. Also, at this point, he's not "getting away with murder." He was convicted on two counts of murder (plus seven others) in July. I'm fairly certain the only reason I even heard of it was because Huggy mentioned it in some sort of tu quoque.

Dave Chappelle, on the other hand, is a prominent comedian with a $60 million contract with Netflix, and the shit he's accused of he's doing out in the open. And, while he's not murdering people (at least, I hope he's not), he's basically doing what you said; it's a bit like being a stand-up comedian mocking the Jews and treating them as less than around the same time the Nuremberg Laws are being passed. That said, looking closer into it, his views seem to be a bit more nuanced than reported, but frankly, that just makes the shit he's done all the more frustrating. At points, it's like, you ever watch Bojack Horseman and see Bojack go through several incidents where he tries to be a better person and then does something shitty and pisses all the goodwill he built over the past few episodes? The Closer is basically Dave Chapelle going through that whole cycle several times in the span of an hour. There's even the occasional Pet The Dog moment, like when he says that trans folk belong in the bathroom of their identified gender (even if he did so in the most ass way possible.) Jessie Gender puts it into perspective better than I can:


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(October 21, 2021 at 7:52 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(October 21, 2021 at 7:36 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: They said he should grow up into an emotional man who can have a cry, and that teaching manliness is wrong.

What is “manliness,” and why is crying antithetical to it?

(October 21, 2021 at 10:52 pm)Foxaire Wrote: As much as I dislike IA, I don't see his recent postings as ban worthy. But whatevs.


It's one thing to discuss the happenings of a court case (Which btw is really off-topic) and who may or may not be innocent. 

It's another thing entirely to call an accuser "Lovely beautiful and brave' while it's dripping with to much sarcasm it stains the rug permanently.
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