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RE: That Gay Thread
November 28, 2021 at 6:03 pm
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(November 28, 2021 at 5:34 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: (November 28, 2021 at 5:32 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: It's been a while since I've seen any of these films except Soul and Get Out, and I don't think any of the main characters or their actors are gay, but they're starring black men, they won Oscars, and they were made in the last 20 years:
- Training Day
- Ray
- Last King of Scotland
- Judas and the Black Messiah
- Fences
- If Beale Street Could Talk
- Black Panther
- Soul
- BlacKKKlansman
- Hustle and Flow
- Selma
- Get Out
- The Blind Side (A bit embarrassing of a pick, I guess, but the protagonist is a straight black man, and it did win an Oscar, even if it was just for Sandra Bullock.)
Oh, look, all I needed to do was look up List of Black Academy Award Winners and Nominees and I found THIRTEEN fitting your criteria. And four of them, black actors won for their performances. And I omitted documentaries and shorts from the list. My criteria was best picture... try again.
Why does only best picture count? Other than the obvious reason that narrowing down the criteria eliminates all the evidence that refutes your premise, that is.
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RE: That Gay Thread
November 28, 2021 at 6:09 pm
(November 28, 2021 at 6:03 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (November 28, 2021 at 5:34 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: My criteria was best picture... try again.
Why does only best picture count? Other than the obvious reason that narrowing down the criteria eliminates all the evidence that refutes your premise, that is.
I’m also curious as to why films about slaves and slavery don’t count.
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RE: That Gay Thread
November 28, 2021 at 6:09 pm
(November 28, 2021 at 6:03 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (November 28, 2021 at 5:34 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: My criteria was best picture... try again.
Why does only best picture count? Other than the obvious reason that narrowing down the criteria eliminates all the evidence that refutes your premise, that is. A movie isn't one man (the star) it's all the elements that go into a movie that make it a movie.
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RE: That Gay Thread
November 28, 2021 at 6:12 pm
(November 28, 2021 at 5:32 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (November 28, 2021 at 4:02 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Stop it, the only movies to win best picture, with black main characters in the last 5 years were about gay black men. Find ONE movie starring straight black men that has won an Oscar in the past 20 years (slave movies don't count).
It's been a while since I've seen any of these films except Soul and Get Out, and I don't think any of the main characters or their actors are gay, but they're starring black men, they won Oscars, and they were made in the last 20 years:
- Training Day
- Ray
- Last King of Scotland
- Judas and the Black Messiah
- Fences
- If Beale Street Could Talk
- Black Panther
- Soul
- BlacKKKlansman
- Hustle and Flow
- Selma
- Get Out
- The Blind Side (A bit embarrassing of a pick, I guess, but the protagonist is a straight black man, and it did win an Oscar, even if it was just for Sandra Bullock.)
Oh, look, all I needed to do was look up List of Black Academy Award Winners and Nominees and I found THIRTEEN fitting your criteria. And four of them, black actors won for their performances. And I omitted documentaries and shorts from the list.
Not to be a nudge, but you left out ‘Crash’, which starred Don Cheadle AND won best picture.
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RE: That Gay Thread
November 28, 2021 at 6:12 pm
(November 28, 2021 at 6:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (November 28, 2021 at 6:03 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Why does only best picture count? Other than the obvious reason that narrowing down the criteria eliminates all the evidence that refutes your premise, that is.
I’m also curious as to why films about slaves and slavery don’t count.
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Plus, by my count, that only excludes two other films: 12 Years a Slave and Django Unchained. Adding that to the two black gay movies, that's a total of four movies that would have been eliminated, leaving 13 other films that I delineated in this thread less than an hour ago.
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RE: That Gay Thread
November 28, 2021 at 6:15 pm
Let's just acknowledge this criteria sucks.....
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RE: That Gay Thread
November 28, 2021 at 6:15 pm
(November 28, 2021 at 6:12 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (November 28, 2021 at 6:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I’m also curious as to why films about slaves and slavery don’t count.
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Plus, by my count, that only excludes two other films: 12 Years a Slave and Django Unchained. Adding that to the two black gay movies, that's a total of four movies that would have been eliminated, leaving 13 other films that I delineated in this thread less than an hour ago.
Next, he’ll be asking why no straight Black man has ever won a BAFTA for Best Film Editing By A Left-Handed Zombie.
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RE: That Gay Thread
November 28, 2021 at 6:15 pm
Get Out: Best writing screenplay
Judas and the Black Messiah: Best original song, Best Actor in a Supporting Role
Selma: Best original song
Soul: Best original score
The Last King of Scotland: Best Actor; Forrest Whitaker
Ma Rainey's Black Bottom: Best Makeup and Hairstyling
Undefeated: Best documentary
Black Panther: Best costume design
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse Best animated feature
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RE: That Gay Thread
November 28, 2021 at 6:16 pm
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(November 28, 2021 at 6:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (November 28, 2021 at 6:03 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Why does only best picture count? Other than the obvious reason that narrowing down the criteria eliminates all the evidence that refutes your premise, that is.
I’m also curious as to why films about slaves and slavery don’t count.
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RE: That Gay Thread
November 28, 2021 at 6:16 pm
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(November 28, 2021 at 6:12 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (November 28, 2021 at 5:32 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: It's been a while since I've seen any of these films except Soul and Get Out, and I don't think any of the main characters or their actors are gay, but they're starring black men, they won Oscars, and they were made in the last 20 years:
- Training Day
- Ray
- Last King of Scotland
- Judas and the Black Messiah
- Fences
- If Beale Street Could Talk
- Black Panther
- Soul
- BlacKKKlansman
- Hustle and Flow
- Selma
- Get Out
- The Blind Side (A bit embarrassing of a pick, I guess, but the protagonist is a straight black man, and it did win an Oscar, even if it was just for Sandra Bullock.)
Oh, look, all I needed to do was look up List of Black Academy Award Winners and Nominees and I found THIRTEEN fitting your criteria. And four of them, black actors won for their performances. And I omitted documentaries and shorts from the list.
Not to be a nudge, but you left out ‘Crash’, which starred Don Cheadle AND won best picture.
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I guess that one flew under my radar, since nobody black was even nominated for that one.
Also, Nay_sayer, I deliberately did not include Into the Spider-Verse because the protagonist of that movie is Puerto Rican... except that, looking it up on Wikipedia to confirm it, he's also apparently part-black. I think I need to update the list.
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