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How far reaching are God's powers?
October 10, 2020 at 7:46 pm
What is God god of? My guess is that most believers believe that God's powers go over our solar system. So is the God a God of the whole galaxy or just part of the galaxy? Does it go beyond galaxy and God is God of the whole galactic cluster? Or the believers believe that God is in charge of all the galaxies? I mean that is a lot of galaxies, stars, planets, and whatnot.
And if God is God of the whole universe is it just this universe or is he God of all other universes, or each universe has its own God?
Psalm 82 mentions how God has meetings with other gods so we see some division of power, perhaps gods of other galaxies or universes?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: How far reaching are God's powers?
October 10, 2020 at 7:52 pm
(October 10, 2020 at 7:46 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: What is God god of? My guess is that most believers believe that God's powers go over our solar system. So is the God a God of the whole galaxy or just part of the galaxy? Does it go beyond galaxy and God is God of the whole galactic cluster? Or the believers believe that God is in charge of all the galaxies? I mean that is a lot of galaxies, stars, planets, and whatnot.
And if God is God of the whole universe is it just this universe or is he God of all other universes, or each universe has its own God?
Psalm 82 mentions how God has meetings with other gods so we see some division of power, perhaps gods of other galaxies or universes?
Except verse 6-7 says these supposed "gods" will die like mere mortals, so not "gods" of any consequence.
Julius Caesar could be likened as one of these gods perhaps based on what people around him thought of him. But as far as I can tell he is just food for worms now.
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RE: How far reaching are God's powers?
October 10, 2020 at 7:54 pm
They reach as far as the Altar boy nebula and the constellation Hypocrisy.
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RE: How far reaching are God's powers?
October 11, 2020 at 1:47 am
(October 10, 2020 at 7:52 pm)runewell Wrote: Except verse 6-7 says these supposed "gods" will die like mere mortals, so not "gods" of any consequence.
Why is that "except"? God of Christianity died as a mere mortal, so is he also a God of no consequence? Especially since Matthew 24:35 says, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." You know, Heaven where God of Christianity lives, so he will also perish and is finite.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: How far reaching are God's powers?
October 11, 2020 at 1:52 am
(October 11, 2020 at 1:47 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (October 10, 2020 at 7:52 pm)runewell Wrote: Except verse 6-7 says these supposed "gods" will die like mere mortals, so not "gods" of any consequence.
Why is that "except"? God of Christianity died as a mere mortal, so is he also a God of no consequence? Especially since Matthew 24:35 says, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." You know, Heaven where God of Christianity lives, so he will also perish and is finite.
Goodluck, Rune is worse than Drich and without any of the courage to list his beliefs
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RE: How far reaching are God's powers?
October 11, 2020 at 2:52 am
(October 11, 2020 at 1:52 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: (October 11, 2020 at 1:47 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Why is that "except"? God of Christianity died as a mere mortal, so is he also a God of no consequence? Especially since Matthew 24:35 says, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." You know, Heaven where God of Christianity lives, so he will also perish and is finite.
Goodluck, Rune is worse than Drich and without any of the courage to list his beliefs
TBH, I kinda feel sad for Drich, because he's so captured by his faith. Rune comes off as disingenuous and an asshole, never substantiating his own reasoning - instead just quoting some "authority".
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RE: How far reaching are God's powers?
October 11, 2020 at 7:25 am
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God’s powers reach exactly as far as the first logical fallacy.
And in Psalm 82, God isn’t speaking to actual gods. He is speaking to human judges and upbraiding them for acting like gods.
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RE: How far reaching are God's powers?
October 11, 2020 at 8:02 am
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(October 11, 2020 at 7:25 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: God’s powers reach exactly as far as the first logical fallacy.
And in Psalm 82, God isn’t speaking to actual gods. He is speaking to human judges and upbraiding them for acting like gods.
Bore
Actually, it seems that Bible is talking about gods because it uses word "elohim", and it's all part of polytheism of older Jews (Canaanites) and their
pantheon of gods.
Quote:Marti Steussy, in Chalice Introduction to the Old Testament, discusses: "The first verse of Psalm 82: 'Elohim has taken his place in the divine council.' Here elohim has a singular verb and clearly refers to God. But in verse 6 of the Psalm, God says to the other members of the council, 'You [plural] are elohim.' Here elohim has to mean gods."[47]
Mark Smith, referring to this same Psalm, states in God in Translation: "This psalm presents a scene of the gods meeting together in divine council ... Elohim stands in the council of El. Among the elohim he pronounces judgment: ..."[48]
In Hulsean Lectures for..., H. M. Stephenson discussed Jesus' argument in John 10:34–36 concerning Psalm 82. (In answer to the charge of blasphemy Jesus replied: ) "Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods. If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?" – "Now what is the force of this quotation 'I said ye are gods.' It is from the Asaph Psalm which begins 'Elohim hath taken His place in the mighty assembly. In the midst of the Elohim He is judging.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: How far reaching are God's powers?
October 11, 2020 at 1:25 pm
(October 11, 2020 at 1:47 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (October 10, 2020 at 7:52 pm)runewell Wrote: Except verse 6-7 says these supposed "gods" will die like mere mortals, so not "gods" of any consequence.
Why is that "except"? God of Christianity died as a mere mortal, so is he also a God of no consequence? Especially since Matthew 24:35 says, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." You know, Heaven where God of Christianity lives, so he will also perish and is finite.
Except he returned to life unlike a mere mortal.
Also, just because someone dies, that does not make them finite.
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RE: How far reaching are God's powers?
October 11, 2020 at 1:36 pm
(October 11, 2020 at 1:25 pm)runewell Wrote: (October 11, 2020 at 1:47 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Why is that "except"? God of Christianity died as a mere mortal, so is he also a God of no consequence? Especially since Matthew 24:35 says, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." You know, Heaven where God of Christianity lives, so he will also perish and is finite.
Except he returned to life unlike a mere mortal.
Also, just because someone dies, that does not make them finite.
How do you know he returned to life? I'll give you a hint: 'Because it says so in the Bible' is the wrong answer.
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